Ford Dealer Stole My $820 Harley Special Edition Spare Tire And Rim
#31
07-03-2007, 11:12 AM
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ccerniglia
I Agree with "PowerStrokeHD." Even if he did "order" it from the factory w/ a spare H-D Rim it would never happen.FoMoCo doesn't do that, if anything the selling dealership would have ordered one and added it to the deal, in witch you would need the "We owe" from the deal to prove it was on the Truck.To all of us we are hearing one story from one man and i plan on not being bias. I work here at a dealership in parts and i know how these things works. That Rim didn't come on the truck from Ford like that.Your salesmen ordered from a parts counter man who then billed it to your stock# of the truck in witch you later got billed for. Your only way to prove that it was once on the truck is to have the selling paperwork, without it you really have no case and the dealer, the advisor, and even myself (those of us whom have spent many years working for ford) know that the truck never came with that from the factory. Listen i don't mean to **** you off or have you start flaming me i just feel that you should know the facts.
However, I know what my own truck was equipped with. I put the padlock and cable on the Harley spare myself to prevent it from being stolen. The truck was a special order by another dealership (when I purchased it 3 years ago they had to search for it and found it on a lot at another dealer as another customer had special ordered it from the factory and then backed out of the deal). I have the original options window sticker...it CLEARLY shows an optional extra Harley wheel as a spare.
I don't make this accusation lightly. Considering I'm driving a $50,000 pickup, I'm not that desperate for a lousy $820. SOMEONE stole my Harley spare, ALL the evidence points toward the Ford dealer.
#32
07-03-2007, 11:18 AM
Senior User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Western Montana
Posts: 445
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't know why it is so hard for some of you to believe you don't know everything and haven't seen every variation by Ford. I trust that kc10ken would know if his wheel was there based on what he said early in the thread. If you don't want to read the thread, fine, just don't respond and tell people kc10ken is incorrect.
#33
07-03-2007, 11:20 AM
Originally Posted by kc10ken
I doubt it. I mean, how would it look if an employee drove to work one day in a Ford pickup with only ONE Harley wheel?
#34
07-03-2007, 11:25 AM
I agree with a lot of what you said, but having proof it was there and now it's not doesn't mean the dealership took it.
I know of one guy that bought a used truck that had one of those nets instead of a tailgate. He visited his local Ford dealership at night and found the same color Ranger and took the tailgate as his own. I'd hate to think this happened to you, but I'd hate more to find out a dealership employee is doing this to people.
I hope things get worked out, in your favor.
I know of one guy that bought a used truck that had one of those nets instead of a tailgate. He visited his local Ford dealership at night and found the same color Ranger and took the tailgate as his own. I'd hate to think this happened to you, but I'd hate more to find out a dealership employee is doing this to people.
I hope things get worked out, in your favor.
#35
07-03-2007, 11:27 AM
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by redford
Look for a mechanic or dealer employee that also has a Harley Edition. I bet they swapped spare tires with you thinking you wouldn't notice.
PS: What was your AFSC in the Air Force? I was in for 13 years...hence the screen name....KC10 crewchief.
#37
07-03-2007, 11:33 AM
How long did the dealer have your truck? just a drop off for oil change or keep it over night or longer? reason I ask sometimes the dealers around here just leave them out back and don't even bother to lock them. not saying your dealer or someone there did or did not do it just throwning out some ideas. When and if you prove the dealer or an employee did this if you are not pleased with the outcome please let us know the dealers name so others won't wind up in this situation.
#38
07-03-2007, 11:37 AM
Originally Posted by birddog16
When and if you prove the dealer or an employee did this if you are not pleased with the outcome please let us know the dealers name so others won't wind up in this situation.
#39
07-03-2007, 11:38 AM
Originally Posted by birddog16
How long did the dealer have your truck? just a drop off for oil change or keep it over night or longer? reason I ask sometimes the dealers around here just leave them out back and don't even bother to lock them. not saying your dealer or someone there did or did not do it just throwning out some ideas. When and if you prove the dealer or an employee did this if you are not pleased with the outcome please let us know the dealers name so others won't wind up in this situation.
Our fleet vehicles get left outside over night and locked but that doesnt prevent the otherstuff from getting lifted
They had possesion of your truck while it was getting worked on, might be your argument if sec tapes show someone crawling under it
#40
07-03-2007, 11:45 AM
Posting Guru
I would call Ford corporate office and tell them you have lost all trust for the dealer, and that you are so upset you will trade your truck in for a Chevy (If you tell them a dodge they will know you are bluffing so don't do that).
I did it when I bought a "Blue Oval Certified" F250 SD FX4 that didn't have a horn, interior lights, or anything left of the ball joints or tie rods. I got free oil changes for the next 4 years, and they offered to have any dealer of my choice repair what was wrong free of labor charges. Unfortunately, I didn't care enough to get it in before I went over my mileage.
I did it when I bought a "Blue Oval Certified" F250 SD FX4 that didn't have a horn, interior lights, or anything left of the ball joints or tie rods. I got free oil changes for the next 4 years, and they offered to have any dealer of my choice repair what was wrong free of labor charges. Unfortunately, I didn't care enough to get it in before I went over my mileage.
#41
07-03-2007, 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by surf_ox
thats what i was thinking.
Our fleet vehicles get left outside over night and locked but that doesnt prevent the otherstuff from getting lifted
They had possesion of your truck while it was getting worked on, might be your argument if sec tapes show someone crawling under it
Our fleet vehicles get left outside over night and locked but that doesnt prevent the otherstuff from getting lifted
They had possesion of your truck while it was getting worked on, might be your argument if sec tapes show someone crawling under it
First, why would the common thief replace the spare?
Second, the common thief would have taken all of the tires if he had time to defeat the lock and take the spare. All they have to do is shove some wood under the truck axles to support it and then remove the valve cores from the tires. The truck lowers onto the blocks when the tires deflate, tires are removed and gone. It would take a lot less time than prying off the lock to get the spare down and the payoff is 4 times higher.
#42
07-03-2007, 11:48 AM
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
That's not a good idea, because of legal ramifications.
#43
07-03-2007, 11:48 AM
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ccerniglia
"Fourth, I'm a good customer at this dealer. I paid almost $50,000 for this truck and have given them a considerable amount of business in the past 3 years. They know me, they know I'm not a whacko who would make such an outlandish claim. I've tolerated a lot of problems with this truck in 3 years and have not once complained to the dealer about having to bring it in for warranty repairs 30 times in 3 years. "
Doesn't your salesman still work there? Can't the sales department say weather or not it came on the truck or not?
Doesn't your salesman still work there? Can't the sales department say weather or not it came on the truck or not?
Good idea, thanks!
#45
07-03-2007, 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by redford
There parts that bothers me about the "common criminal taking the tire in the dead of night" scenario.
First, why would the common thief replace the spare?
Second, the common thief would have taken all of the tires if he had time to defeat the lock and take the spare. All they have to do is shove some wood under the truck axles to support it and then remove the valve cores from the tires. The truck lowers onto the blocks when the tires deflate, tires are removed and gone. It would take a lot less time than prying off the lock to get the spare down and the payoff is 4 times higher.
First, why would the common thief replace the spare?
Second, the common thief would have taken all of the tires if he had time to defeat the lock and take the spare. All they have to do is shove some wood under the truck axles to support it and then remove the valve cores from the tires. The truck lowers onto the blocks when the tires deflate, tires are removed and gone. It would take a lot less time than prying off the lock to get the spare down and the payoff is 4 times higher.
4 tires gone and truck on blocks would trigger massive police action
4 individual nice spares gone when people dont even know they are missing until a year or two maybe more (how often do you change a flat)
didnt kc say there were pretty stickers on the new to him spare....stickers would have gotten soft and discolored from road grime and water by now if original
here
new tire = inside job in my book
Last edited by surf_ox; 07-03-2007 at 12:34 PM.