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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Why is the compression ratio so low?

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Read.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...n-why-how.html
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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Thanks. Hah, they arrived at the same conclusion I did "boost".
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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There is a serious difference between "static" and "dynamic" compression ratios

Ford's static numbers are simple math based on cylinder volume at BDC vs cylinder volume at TDC

Dynamic compression ratio considers valve timing, overlap, and the extra 2 cylinders load on the various other systems (starting system as an example)

compression ratios relate to more then just cylinder timing/firing sequences and pre ignition... the engineers also consider bore evacuation, pre fill, shape, charge injection velocity and about another half dozen factors to arrive at a formula for decent drive-ability, starting, volumetric efficiency etc...

To compare the modular 5.4 to the 6.8 is interesting but not really relevant --- IMO --- The 6.8 is NOT just a v8 with two extra cylinders...intertnal combustion motor engineering is much more complicated then that
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Don't forget, the 5.4L is now VVT - variable valve (cam) timing

The V10 is NOT.

So, like Fred said, dynamic compression is different between the 5.4 and the V10.
 
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