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OK guys a friend of mine and I went to Las Vegas last weekend, I was driving a 95 TBird 4.6 and could very easly go over 100 MPH my friend who also has a 95 TBird 4.6 will not go over 100MPH it seems that his car has a speed govenor that will shut the car down at over 100 MPH anyone know how to eliminate this, seems my car being an early 95 does not have this feature. This is a new one to me. Thanks
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Dave: Different computer codes in the same year model vehicles have the speed cutoff set at different places. You car will most likely shut off at about 107mph. Your friends must be a 97 mph shutoff. Either shutoff can be eliminated with a performance chip. I suggest that you look at the online store on this site. The chip will add a bit of horsepower and torque as well as raising the rev limiter and removing the speed limiter.
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Dave: Your car and your friends car have different computer codes in the ecu. Your car is probably a 107 mph shutoff and his is a 97 mph shutoff. The code dictates which program is in the ecu. A performance chip will remove the shutoff, raise the rev limiter, and add a bit of horsepower and torque. Check the online store on this site, Ken has about the best price on a Superchip on the internet.
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Not so, my car has no speed limiter, I bought it brand new so no one else has had it. My Bird will do well over 120 MPH. There were areas like Cima road coming back from Las Vegas that I was going over 120.
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Daywalker: Most Ford trucks will shut off at 97mph. A few will be equipped with the 107 mph shutoff. Dave's shutoff may have been eliminated somehow. All Fords, except the GT's, are equipped with a shutoff from the factory. Ford began using speed limiters in 1988. Some can be overcome by reflashing the ecu. Ford service departments will recieve a TSB, technical service bulletin, and reflash or update a computer without the owners knowledge. The TSB will flag on the service departments computer and a certain vin number combo will indicate that the service dept. should reflash. When the owners' vin is entered in the computer, for any reason, the reflash will be done. The is not a recall item, simply a tech service bulletin. The owner is very seldom notified that his ecu has been reflashed. Since 1997, service departments are required to install a sticker giving the reflash code at various places under the hood.
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Danny, how could this be, since I bought the car brand new in July of 95, it has never been tampered with and will not shut off at any speed have had it well over 120 mph. It has been at the dealer many times for warenty work and never have it shut down over 100 mph. The production date on this car is 05/95. I have heard that in 95 ford used two different ignition/injection systems, but I dont know that for fact. I am not sure that your info is all correct.
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Dave: The ecu could have been reflashed during any of your warranty visits. The dealer will not tell you about this, since it is not a recall, only a tech service bulletin. To see the differences between your two cars, look at the computer code numbers on the ecu, they will be different. Same year, same engine, same transmission, different codes!!! As the year progresses, Ford creates several different codes for the same automobiles. As a new code is created, Ford releases a tech service bulletin. As the previous codes come in for warranty work, identified by the vin numbers, the ecu's are reflashed to update the computer to the latest program. You would never know if this was done.
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Danny,
If this was the case, you would assume that my car would have gotten the update, and would have the speed limiter programed in to it. So how do we solve the mystery that my car does not have the speed limiter?
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If this was the case, you would assume that my car would have gotten the update, and would have the speed limiter programed in to it. So how do we solve the mystery that my car does not have the speed limiter?
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I hate to get into the middle of this but I just cannot stand by and listen to it. grin-grin!! Your car HAS to have a speed limiter none of the Ford engines except the GT's do not have it! Possibly you are mistaken about the top speed (you changed you tire size or what ever) I will "gaur-ren-tee" it has a top speed limiter possibly at 107 mph, but it has got one so let it go buddy! You are mistaken about the top speed of your car for some expainable reason that is for sure
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From: Banning CA
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Two things that I am for sure, one is that my car does not have a speed limiter or is not functional, and the other is the speed at which the car will go. One of the other team members that was also coming back from Las Vegas was maxed out at 107 and I blew by them well over 120. The other party that was with us of the three that started was following us in a ford pickup doing 120 also. The car is all original and the tires nor anything else ever been changed or tampered with. So unless you can drive this car, I do not need you to tell me that this car can not go over 107!
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Dave: I am not rying to start any arguments. I am only stating what the FORD FACTORY SERVICE School teaches their techs. Your limiter may have never been installed originally or may have been miscued when reflashing, or both. I am thrilled that your car will run well over 120. I had a 97 bird with the same engine, killer car. Just want to let you know why your buddies car will shut off at the recommended speed by Ford, and to tell you how to eliminate his speed limiter. Remember that when and if he chips his bird to remove the limiter, it will also have 21 more horsepower and 35 ft/lb more torque than stock. If you want a little more horsepower and torque, see Ken on the online store. STAY SAFE
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Danny Iwant to thank you for your info, I spoke with Bob who ownes the other car, and we are going to order the chip and try that. I dont know the deal with why mine does not shut off. But for alls it is worth, I am greatfull that it does not. I will let you know how it works once we get the chip
Again thank you
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 31-Oct-00 AT 00:18 AM (EST)[/font][p]Danny
you are so full of *****. you dont know anything about reflashing the pcm. dealers only
reflash the pcm if it required by a diagnostic
procedure. updated pcm programs are designed to
improve peformance. not limit it. typical
performance chip seller. get your own site and sell that junk.
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you are so full of *****. you dont know anything about reflashing the pcm. dealers only
reflash the pcm if it required by a diagnostic
procedure. updated pcm programs are designed to
improve peformance. not limit it. typical
performance chip seller. get your own site and sell that junk.
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