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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Went today to titan forums. Somebody who works at nissan said he was told that HD was not cancelled. It was postponed. For what he figures may be by 2010 or 2011.Also they are positive a navistar @ nissan partnership for diesel engines. They also talk about diesel on their 1/2 ton trucks. All this info. is not suposed to be speculation. U should go and read and come to post your opinion. Titan diesel.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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What's so funny about that? If they do get Navistar as an engine supplier they are already ahead of the game because of Navistar's history with building engines for 3/4 ton trucks. ( albeit not a stellar history with the 6.0L )

And possibly with a new manufacturer, Navistar can wipe the slate clean.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Wasn't Ford also responsible for the 6.0l problems due to the fact that they produced the engine managment system and emission controls for the engine? Navistar's image may not be so blemised in the eyes of another manufactorer like Nissan.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Wasn't Ford also responsible for the 6.0l problems due to the fact that they produced the engine managment system and emission controls for the engine? Navistar's image may not be so blemised in the eyes of another manufactorer like Nissan.
I not too sure on who's fault it was but you hit the nail on the head with your last sentence.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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What's so funny about that? If they do get Navistar as an engine supplier they are already ahead of the game because of Navistar's history with building engines for 3/4 ton trucks. ( albeit not a stellar history with the 6.0L )

And possibly with a new manufacturer, Navistar can wipe the slate clean.
What I feel funny is that they are predicting their diesel engine by 2009/2010. By that time navistar still has the contract with ford. So now is time to sue navistar, like they did to ford. Is not a fact yet but their are flirting.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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What I feel funny is that they are predicting their diesel engine by 2009/2010. By that time navistar still has the contract with ford. So now is time to sue navistar, like they did to ford. Is not a fact yet but their are flirting.
So until Navistar/Nissan sign any sort of contract I would imagine they can do all the talking ( flirting ) they want. I don't know this for fact but if they are fullfilling their contract to Ford, why can't they be looking out for their future after Ford.

I wouldn't be surprised if Navistar/Ford cut ties before the end of their contract...
 
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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I think so too. Once they get the warrantee issues out of the way they both will be happy to part ways.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
So until Navistar/Nissan sign any sort of contract I would imagine they can do all the talking ( flirting ) they want. I don't know this for fact but if they are fullfilling their contract to Ford, why can't they be looking out for their future after Ford.

I wouldn't be surprised if Navistar/Ford cut ties before the end of their contract...
I fully agree with you. Now explain me why navistar sue ford because he is also looking the way to provide diesel engines after the contract comes to its end. I know this are very complex issues, but it doesn't sound unfair?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chaparro
Went today to titan forums. Somebody who works at nissan said he was told that HD was not cancelled. It was postponed. For what he figures may be by 2010 or 2011.Also they are positive a navistar @ nissan partnership for diesel engines. They also talk about diesel on their 1/2 ton trucks. All this info. is not suposed to be speculation. U should go and read and come to post your opinion. Titan diesel.
I went to the Titan forum...all some "Nissan Engineer" says is:

"A little birdy I know from the plant has told me the HD project is not Cancelled however it was postponed slightly, they would not give me any more details than that. From the hinting, I think we are looking at around 2010."


This is nothing more than hearsay. I don't need a "little birdy" to figure that out.

How would anyone really know whether the guy is a Nissan Engineer or not? The wording in his post is suspect. If he's an Nissan Engineer, wouldn't he say at the plant instead of from the plant?


Search: Navistar on titantalk.com
 

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If he's an Nissan Engineer, wouldn't he say at the plant instead of from the plant ?
Depends on how smart he is
 
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Now explain me why navistar sue ford because he is also looking the way to provide diesel engines after the contract comes to its end.
I think you are asking "why is Navistar sueing Ford because they (Ford) are looking for a way to provide engines after the contract?"

Isn't Ford building their own engines in house? I think Navistar may be more concerned with Ford hooking up with another diesel engine supplier. ( competitor )

If this isn't the questions you had in mind could you please repost?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
I think you are asking "why is Navistar sueing Ford because they (Ford) are looking for a way to provide engines after the contract?"

Isn't Ford building their own engines in house? I think Navistar may be more concerned with Ford hooking up with another diesel engine supplier. ( competitor )

If this isn't the questions you had in mind could you please repost?
I couldn't find better words. If navistar belives ford is the problem, why are they concerned that ford hooks to another supplier? If navistar is ofering a quality product, wouldn't be easy to find another client?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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You guys are confused when it comes to the terms of Ford's contract with Navistar. Ford is the one that must use Navistar's engine for all diesel applications. The contract does not prevent Navistar from supplying engines to anyone else. It only prevents them from using the Powerstroke name or any other jointly developed technology. Navistar can develop and sell Nissan anything they want as long as it does not violate this. Seeing that Navistar already supplies diesels to Nissan in other countries they are a good choise to provide them here as they already have their foot in the door with Nissan. As far as I'm concerned who cares. It will be just like Dodge with Cummins. It will be just wrapping a crap truck around a good engine.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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orale! If this truth, Will navistar be exempted fixing diesel engines under warranty. Of course understanding what implies warranty coverage. And also is it navistar on his right sueing ford because planning to built his own baby diesel? Oh don't forget baby diesel to be seen at the market after contract ford/navistar already finish.
 
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