resale value
POWER
MPG (bigger engine works less than smaller engine)
better options

there are many reasons to fork over the extra $1-2k for the bigger engine. It's better to spend a little more up front than be stuck with it and not be happy because you saved a few pennies.

 

I used to drive an 87 Silverado w/ 350 fuel injected motor. My dad bought it new and boy would it pull/pass anything. If it only had 190 horses than there is really something wrong with my 4.6...whats it rateded at 230 or 260 cant remember. Maybe we should drop 350's in our Fords. Wouldn't that be the ultimate truck, F150 w/chevy motor? Ok, I better shutup now before I get bared from the fourms. And I wonder why nobody likes me...hehe

 

Ha. My buddy's 91 or so Silverado could BARELY beat my '98 Expedition with the 5.4 and a shot tranny.


Currently, I'm driving a new Tundra with the 5.7 and I just don't think a chipped F150 could beat the Tundra. I'm sure it could beat a Chevy and maybe a Dodge but I think the Titan is still quite a bit faster than the Dodge, even with a deficit of 28 hp.

I raced my buddy's F150 from a dig and I had him from about 10+ mph. From 0-10 he was pretty evenly matched. There is no doubt that our Ford motors have some monster torque at low end. That was the thing that always surprised me about my Expedition. Still the best car we've ever bought.

-rockstate

 

The Toyota 5.7L is a power beast (381 hp, 401 ft lbs), so straight out of the box it's a lot more powerful and lighter than the competition.

 

I've driven both the 4.7 and the 5.7 2007 tundras. I wasn 't impressed with either. The 5.7 with the 6 speed seemed to gear hunt even with 6 gears available. Going up a hill, there shouldn't be any lag in the powerband range for this s/u. The one I drove seemed to lag badly before downshifting, moreso than I've noticed in my SCREW.

As far as the 4.7 in the new body style, it's a slug. It's just as bad or worse than the Ford 4.6 in a Exped. with a 3.55 rearend(sorry if I offend, I've got this Exped. s/u. That's what I can compare it to). For me, I'll wait for some good diesels to come out. Better gas mileage for the HP and Torque.

 

I have the 5.4 and the difference when I installed the edge on level 2 was quite noticeable. Within a half a mile of driving after installing the edge the truck felt quicker and lighter. Best money i've spent yet.

Reid

 

Yeah they are extremely powerful. Traction control is the only kicker

Surprisingly, my Double Cab Tundra weighs in as much as a Lariat Supercrew F150 (Toyota, MSNautos.com).

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="100%">I test drove the '07 Titan first and was pretty impressed with the ride. Soon after that I test drove the new Tundra and was not impressed at all. After driving one for a few months now, I find the truck be extremely agile compared to my '98 Expedition at least. Whether or not it's the MOST agile has yet to be seen.

The gears aren't THAT bad. It does hunt a little bit in the city but it's not that bad. I still prefer an old school 4 speed. On a section of highway where my Expedition has to downshift up to 3K rpms, my Tundra holds 6th at 75 mph at 2K rpms.

I wouldn't mind getting a diesel now that diesel gas prices are going down.

Here's a vid of my Tundra doing 0-60 just by punching it with the traction control on with Borla exhaust.


-rockstate
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Using the probably inaccurate video timer, that was 7 seconds. Quite impressive for a truck, either way.

What are the gear ratios on the six speed auto anyways?

 

I tip my hat to your service. My son is a MM2 (SS) (Nuclear), currently aboard the USS Philadelphia. BTW, I have a 2004 Screw with the Evo, and a Flowmaster 50 series SIDO. I just got back from vacation at Colorado Springs. The truck was smoking everything (Silverado, Ram, etc.) as long as I was below 4000'. Once I hit New Mexico, I noticed the performance dropping. I got to elevations as high as 9400' above msl in Colorado and performance was markedly different (sluggish).

 

They're 4.30. That was with about 2500 miles on the ticker and low on fuel. If I were to launch it I'm hoping I'd see about 6 seconds to 60 like Truck Trend. I know it's kinda iffy, but I'd like to see maybe 5.9, a tenth faster than Truck Trend tests, with the exhaust.

-rockstate

 

Yeah...that's pushing it for an exhaust. Especially with a number already that low. It takes little power to go from a 10 second 0-60 to a 9.9 second 0-60, but moving from a 6.0 to a 5.9 will take some ponies.

I wasn't going for the rear end gearing, but thanks for that either way. I meant the transmission gear ratios, sorry.

Are you powerbraking it for the launch? That'll help, though you'll have burnout problems.

 

That's true.

I looked it up on Toyota's website and here they are:

<TABLE class=body01 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=400 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=body02B width=300>5.7-liter with 6-speed ECT </TD><TD width=80> </TD></TR><TR><TD width=20> </TD><TD width=300> 1st</TD><TD width=80>3.333</TD></TR><TR><TD width=20> </TD><TD width=300> 2nd</TD><TD width=80>1.960</TD></TR><TR><TD width=20> </TD><TD width=300> 3rd</TD><TD width=80>1.353</TD></TR><TR><TD width=20> </TD><TD width=300> 4th</TD><TD width=80>1.000</TD></TR><TR><TD width=20> </TD><TD width=300> 5th</TD><TD width=80>0.728</TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD> 6th</TD><TD>0.588</TD></TR><TR><TD width=20> </TD><TD width=300> Reverse</TD><TD width=80>3.061</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I didn't powerbrake it for that launch. I'm sure just a little bit of powerbraking will set those tires loose. What do ya'll think would be a good RPM to let it go at? About 2 grand to start?

Sorry for hijacking the thread...

-rockstate

 

Great first gear for acceleration and awesome second overdrive. I'd just prefer second more along the lines of 2.15.

2K and it's gonna burn a lot...with a higher first gear, my Silverado would light them up stock at 2K, so with more power and a lower first gear, 2K is going to be leaving some rubber for you.

I'd say start at 1,000 and work your way up on a back road, see how high you can do it. The key is also to release the brakes, let the truck move, then slam the gas, not slam the gas before the brakes are released, which leads to most accidental burnouts in my experience.

 

Very wise, sir. I shall try that when it's NOT wet because it's just lethal if it is. I'll say one thing, it does EXCELLEN fishtails on dry pavement. So easy to do and very easy to pull out of.

I think it's gonna be overcast tomorrow so I'll have to try it Saturday or so.

-rockstate

 

Is your rear diff limited slip or whatever they call it? I was able to powerbrake higher RPMs in the Silverado after I got rid of the ridiculous open differential by swapping in a gear driven LSD, for the simple reason that it takes more torque to burn two tires than one.