Ain't that the truth? Guess we'll just have to "assume" the "tuner" demanded that tank size be inputed. Looks like we'll never know how small differences in tank size can change MPG.

Anybody else think an 8' box on an F-Series is uncommon? Or are there millions of them?

Anybody else think a 30 gal tank on an F-Series is uncommon? Or are there millions of them?

Anybody else ever seen any "5-6' beds" on an F-Series? Or have I missed millions of them?

 

Ok I'll bite...

All the ***-uming has been done by you fella.

1) I hardly see any 8' boxes for 97-03 f150's, doesn't mean they don't exist. You ***-umed I had one, and therfore I should have a 30 gal tank.

We are posting in the appropriate forum are we??? Or have I missed another section of FTE where it has 1910-1996 trucks with 8' boxes?

2) Never said a 30 gallon tank is uncommon, once again you are trying to twist things your way as usual. I have a 25 gallon tank, I really don't know how else to tell you, I have noticed you are able to read somewhat. May I suggest "hooked on phonics" for your problem.

3) I have a 6.5' box in my scab, and I know screws are 5.5-6.5', as far as I'm concerned I see them everywhere including other makes as well. Once again we are in the 97-03 forum, I'm sure most will tell you they have either a scab or screw short box, and not what's just in your little corner of the world. Or better yet, just click on everyone's profile or gallery and see for yourself.


Anybody else ever seen any "5-6' beds" on an F-Series? Or have I missed millions of them?

Let there be light!

 

well...my vision tells me i see a whole pile of 5.5-6.5 ft boxes...probably outnumbers the long boxes 10-1 in these parts...especially since '97!! to be exact, when i bought my s'crew, i was looking specifically for an ext cab, long box, and there wasn't one to be found closer than medicine hat. didn't get it because it was beat to snot from the city there...

 

So you've "re-calculated" where this is going & changed your mind about the "win"? I did not assume anything, your tank size was "according to the internet" & you do have a "short bed". "IF" you had an 8' box you'd have a 30 gal. I responded to your obvious confusion over the size of your gas tank, asked a Q & made a suggestion:

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My calculations were slightly off where I thought our tanks had a 90 liter (23.5 gallons)capacity, but according to the internet we have a 25 gallon tank so my mpgs decreases to 18.5.....still pretty good.
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"Presume you're discussing a short bed/short wheel base? Think the regular length has a 30 gallon tank. If this is the case are you going to need to revise your MPG down"
I have '98 & '02 F-Series brochures in front of me. The 6.5' & 8' box are the only sizes listed for '98. The '02 includes the SuperCrew listed ONLY as 5.5' box (not "5.5-6.5"), all the Regular & SuperCab versions are still 6.5' & 8'. Guess I'm guilty of not concentrating on SuperCrews or restricting everything to your truck?
You're still saying "a 30 gallon tank is uncommon" when claiming you "hardly see any 8' boxes for 97-03 f150's". I'm saying I see 8' beds all the time & have no intention of limiting my comments to your specific truck. SuperCrews are less popular here, but a close friend has one I've driven quite bit.
Now you want to include "other makes as well"? I know this won't be popular, its meant to be praise, but IMO this forum does not represent typical F-Series owners. There are thousands of late model F-Series in my county, I wonder if another single Alachua Cty enthusiast posts here? My "little corner of the world" is a state w/nearly 18 million residents, many millions of seasonal visitors & FORD trucks are extremely popular.
You've still never said how discovering the size of your tank altered your MPG calculations? I'd queried if it was demanded by the "tuner"?
You've also apparently rejected the easy helpful suggestion to check your odometer against interstate mileage markers.
I'd have to "***-ume" there are a few more F-Series here in FL than 96sherm sees in Alberta. FL has over half as many residents as all of Canada.
You've done plenty of hostile "***-uming". One thing free of "***-uming" is, you do "bite" "fella".

 

I did not assume anything, your tank size was "according to the internet"

I re-calculated because I thought I used slightly less than 90 liters of fuel, but to my surprise my gas receipt said I filled up over that amount, found my error and fixed it. And yes you did assume I had a 30 gallon tank with an 8' bed. you even did the calculations for me on that.

"You're still saying "a 30 gallon tank is uncommon"

Where oh where have I said that, I only stated 8' boxes are uncommon, I really don't know how many f150's (reg cab, scabs, or screws) have a 30 gallon tank, nor do I care. You are totally grasping at straws now.

"check your odometer against interstate mileage markers."

Don't have an interstate up here, we have provinces and we call them highways, and there isn't any on the route i took anyways. You see how a slight twist to words can get annoying.

The 6.5' & 8' box are the only sizes listed for '98.

Yes, the screw came later in 2001 I do believe, but you can't limit it to your year of 98. I would dare say the majority of F150's sold back from 97-01 were scabs short box, then from there to 03 you have a ton of screws. The way you are fumbling around now I bet those tired eyes of yours are seeing things a bit different now.

FL has over half as many residents as all of Canada.

You would be surprised the majority of people here drive trucks, don't make the mistake of ***-ming what we have up in Canada. I have no idea how many F150's are floating around down in the US, I will let the people in this forum answer that one.

You've done plenty of hostile "***-uming". One thing free of "***-uming" is, you do "bite" "fella".

Hostile?? I doubt it, I am merly retorting to what seems me an attempt by you to single me out. I just like to spell it that way (assuming), I'm not really trying to call you an ***.
You bet your last dollar I'll bite again, heck this is fun now.

 

blah, blah, blah...i haven't seen a f series truck in alberta for about 4 years now...i don't live there, so Club Wagon...you're wrong...

in CANADA if the survey was made, i'm willing to bet that 85% of the trucks sold from 1997-2003 are the ext cab/short box combo. yep, the screw came in '01-03, only available with the 5ft 6in bed length, and a 25 gallon tank.

not ganging up on ya man, but i woke up, it was raining, pissed me off...you were my venting tree...thx...

 

Regular or "scab" F-150 or 250, makes no difference to me, the long 8' box is very popular in my "little corner of the world" & the 8' box comes with a 30 gal tank.

You've claimed "amazing 20 mpg" "more accurately 19.7 mpg" & "re-calculated" down to "18.5" mpg. You've strived for accuracy, but deemed ~4% change in tire diameter minor & reject suggestions to confirm your own adjustments. You've posted not knowing the size of your tank "***-umming" its "23.5" gal, calculated "24.7" but FORD states "25" gal. Your report is based on a single trip/tank.

Even IF your opinion the "majority of F150's sold back from 97-01 were scabs short box" were true, there are still millions of 8' box F-150 & 250's. Your obsession with your truck blinded you, my comment on how to determine which of 2 tanks FORD installed & inquiry into the possibility you had a 30 gal is NOT the same as "***-uming" what you have. My "calculations" were particularly simple & aimed at the still unresolved question of why you use the tank capacity in calculating MPG.

You see how your frequent changing specs, "re-calculations" & "***-uming" can "get annoying"? Guess fumbling with numbers & hostile evasion is your idea of "fun".

 

I can't be responsible for your outdated & innaccurate information. Now you want to abandon claiming a mere majority & "bet" that "85%" of F-Series from '97-'03 are "short box"?

Allow me to modify my comment to reflect the correction you made to your previous opinion:

"I'd have to "***-ume" there have been many more F-Series here in FL than 96sherm SAW in Alberta 4 years ago. FL has over half as many residents as all of Canada."

 

did anyone else get lost trying to follow this????

I like knowing what my '99 F150 4.6 gets too.... I kinda use it as gauge to know when something might be wrong..... doesn't matter what it is - I'm gonna drive my Ford 'til the wheels fall off - then put a new set on and keep driving.

 

I know it is a cluster f**k.....how do you think I feel when he goes off on these wild tangents of his when it concerns me. He attention to extreme detail is not sound, and he will fight until the bitter end, right or wrong.....kind of like a wife. Everything gets twisted one way or another and I have no control over it, I would simple tell you to read over every post but that is a lot to ask anyone.

Club, I'm not gonna tell you how I "think" it is, there are plenty of qualified people here that will give you there opinion....you should probably learn to accept what people say instead of coming up with one excuse after another especially when your latest one is demographics. All you are doing is beating a dead horse over and over again.

 

That's a good way to leave it. If ever I saw a "dead horse" you've been it.

Your vacillating numbers are finally getting beaten into shape. Its been your ever changing "attention to extreme detail" that has "twisted" and turned your marathon of "re-calculations" into the "cluster f**k" it is.

FORD (not me, I just passed it along) always simply said 25 gal, apparently just an "extreme detail" to you, judged to be "wrong" "not sound" & worth a "fight to the bitter end" so your personal "re-calculation" of your "23.5" gal "***-umption" to "24.7" might prevail.

I've learned very well "to accept what people say" however I accept what the "qualified people" at FORD say over you. What's your "excuse" for not accepting FORD's widely published 25 gal spec & calculating your own?

Its funny, you start with "amazing 20" MPG & take a torturous path to "18.5" but still can't seem to make the leap to "accept" FORD's 25 gal tank.... kind of like an exhausted child throwing a tantrum.

And you still have not revealed how & why the capacity of your tank affects your MPG formula. A gallon is a gallon, no matter the size of a tank. Maybe I could "accept" it, even from "a dead horse".

 

and over, and over............all you're doing now is regurgitating everthing I said. How un-original.


"FORD's widely published 25 gal spec"

Gee, I thought it was an 8' box and a 30 gallon tank? This was said by you many times over. I TOLD that I have a 25 gallon tank....remember?!



"Its funny, you start with "amazing 20" MPG & take a torturous path to "18.5" but still can't seem to make the leap to "accept" FORD's 25 gal tank.... kind of like an exhausted child throwing a tantrum."

You have completely lost me now?? You are making little or no sense....my suggestion, lay off the hard stuff.

 

Perfect!

Precisely the way I found you, "completely lost" thinking you had a 23.5 gal tank & spitting out 4 different "MPG's" for 2 tanks of gas.

Sorry to have overlooked the fact that you actually started out with a "respectable 15.4 mpg", then an "amazing 20 mpg" followed by the "actual 19.7" re-calculated so it "decreases to 18.5". So does that original "15.4" also need to be re-calculated downward now that you know the size of your tank? Why not go for 5 "MPG's"? That would be "original".

You might be accustomed to "the hard stuff" my "**** retentive" friend, but you won't find any in my blood stream.

My suggestion, let a "dead horse" lie.

 

15.4 was city, 18.5 was all highway......the two are completely different and I made that appartently clear.

You are flip flopping all over the place everyone here has a hard time keeping up. One thing is for sure I made 2 posts on the subject and after that you have barraged this topic with everything from:

- 8' boxes and 30 gallon tanks (had nothing to do with mpg)
- how many trucks ford sold in 98 with 8' boxes (had nothing todo with mpg)
- Fl population compared to Canada (had nothing to do with mpg)

Yes I made an error when i first did it, but at least I posted the correct data and was honest in my mistake. What about you? You have tried to call people out on me and haven'y any such luck, and when someone does finally and it isn't what you had hoped to be, you dismiss it.

You say Im obsessed with my truck?? Why don't you look at the past 25 posts and see who the real culprit is.

 

teeheehee... i'm officially confused...but i'm still getting 23MPG (canadian) with 550lbs of dirtbikes hanging off the back of my truck...