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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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What has everyone found to be the average lifespan of waterpumps and cooling systems in general? I can see what the filter system does, but I haven't heard of a rash of cooling system failures at X amount of miles. Sorry, I know I'm being pessimistic.
 

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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
the filter kit seems kinda step at 119.00 . For my 07 and 08 trucks i am going to add the napa kit the same one i have used on all my trucks including my f150. the part number is 4019 and costs 49.99 the wix filter number is 4070 and is about 7.00.

here is a link to a guy who installed the napa kit.http://www.dieselwarden.net/ford/coolfilter1.html
The NAPA lacks the following for a 6.0L installation or is not pictured in the link/photo you reference (looks like an imcomplete kit)....

1) No "T" fitting to tap into the heater hose.

2) No "T" fitting to tap into the degas bottle return hone/line.

3) No bracket to hold housing to any part of the vehicle?

4) No ball **** valves to shut off flow when replacing a filter.


My mom and dad use to tell me... "son if you find something that works and is a complete kit and you don't have to run around town buying other parts and trying to engineer it yourself and others like the way it works... then stick with it."

I have no doubt that this system works, but it appears to be sold or developed as an "off the shelf" system and there are still "parts" that one needs to buy... where as the dieselsite.com coolant filter is a 100% ready to install kit for the 6.0L motor.

Good luck with your NAPA set-up and I am glad it has worked for you previously... but for the 6.0L motor, the dieselsite.com set-up is as good as it gets.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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look at my gallery pics and all the junk i filtered out on the first coolant filter change. its worth $120, and filters r cheap.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by southbound35west
look at my gallery pics and all the junk i filtered out on the first coolant filter change. its worth $120, and filters r cheap.
Yep. pictures you have look like mine as well.

You may want to develop different gallery files within your main gallery and seperate them by "topic" to make it easier to find each picture or topic. I did mine that way... becuase I can reference each "topic" and have people go right there.

Great looking truck and mods.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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i wonder how easy the baldwin filters for the dieselsite system are to get in fact i wonder if they cross over to wix or napa.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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i found it the baldwin filter number b5134 crosses over to the wix 24070 coolant filter no chemicals....
And infact the napa kit for 50 bucks that uses the napa filter number 4070 crosses over to the same number...so the kits are about the same...minus T-Fittings which are a dollar or two. And if u have a by-pass mounted off the alt like me it is a great alternative.
 

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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Wish, are you saying the Baldwin is a "charged" filter and the wix or napa? I am going to use the filter mount Gashog posted as I don't pay for fittings or filters. I know that the 6.0 requires no chemicals in the filters and want ot be sure to have work order the right ones.(baldwin)
 
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
Wish, are you saying the Baldwin is a "charged" filter and the wix or napa? I am going to use the filter mount Gashog posted as I don't pay for fittings or filters. I know that the 6.0 requires no chemicals in the filters and want ot be sure to have work order the right ones.(baldwin)
The Baldwin (non-charged) filter is number "B5134".

This is the Baldwin coolant filter dieselsite.com sells with their kit and as replacements.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Thanks Jeff.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 04:46 AM
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The 4019 kit is designed to be run in circuit of the heater hose pressure line. It does not have the fitting for the degas bottle as its not needed. The ballcock valves are sold for 5.99 each and so are the brass or plastic T fittings. So far 6 of my 13 SuperDuty service trucks with either the 7.3 or 6.0 have the ballcock valves the other 7 don't and with the filter mounted upright and the pressure cap closed I get no spillage when changing the filter. The filter housing is the bracket or you can do what I did and weld your own custom bracket to the backside of it. I will post pictures of ths setup on the 7.3 or 6.0 when I can get one of the service trucks back into my shop. Maybe monday or tuesday.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 04:32 AM
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My two cents here. My 2003 has been recently diagnosed with failing headgaskets/headbolts and the only way I knew it was failing was that I seen oily/exhaust looking crap in my degas bottle after coolant change from just recently changing the coolant 10,000km earlier. Then after further monitoring my truck was puking from my degas bottle ever so slightly under heavy towing loads up steep long grades, which I may have never noticed until after warranty expired (whew!!).

Moral of the story is if I had the coolant by-pass filter I may have never known of the leaking headgaskets as the coolant crap would of been filtered and the coolant in my degas would of been clean.

I know the coolant by-pass systems works as other buddies have it and should really extend the coolant system life such as the waterpump. FYI - We have a few 6L in our fleet with >300,000km and the waterpumps were not replaced yet with just complete stock trucks following regular maintenance intervals. I do not know if the 7.3L had early waterpump or coolant failures as I would assume it may be similar to the 6L.

I know the 6L produces foul crap in the coolant and so to mitigate this I have been draining most of the coolant at 25,000km intervals (once a year) and filtering it manually using coffee filters, funnel and clean buckets. I reuse the coolant until 100,000km change intervals. Rational is that it is cheap but a little combersome and I visually inspect my coolant to see what is going on in my truck for potential problems. Most importantly is that I am fond of simplicity; the least amount parts and plumbing on my truck gives me "less to worry about" for other problems in the future.

I thought I would post this alternative for those that may benefit.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
Wish, are you saying the Baldwin is a "charged" filter and the wix or napa? I am going to use the filter mount Gashog posted as I don't pay for fittings or filters. I know that the 6.0 requires no chemicals in the filters and want ot be sure to have work order the right ones.(baldwin)
yes the mentioned numbers are none charged.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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BC Powerstoke,

Changing it the way you do (I guess) is better than nothing.. but will not filter the coolant like a by-pass filter will. Why... becuase the sand and sediment only move around while the system is pressurized and moving large volumes of coolant and "sediment" around. Once you stop your motor and pressure is lost, the sediment finds and stays in the lowest parts of your motor, radiator and heater core. Dumping, filtering and even flushing does not filter and clean like a full-time coolant filter does while under pressure and moving coolant through the "system" at a high voluem rate.

You would have noticed a problem due to "puking" with or wthout a coolant filter. Not sure about the "oily" residue if the filter completly would filter it out, but I would think that a slight "tint" in colort change would be evident (not sure)???

The dealer changed my lower radiator hose and I flushed before I installed my coolant filter.... and I still got out a lot of sediment. The pictures in my gallery are what was filtered out after 6,000 miles and I flushed 5 times with distilled water and ran each "flush" until the temp guage opened... this is why I can state that dumping and refilling or even many power flushing does not even come close to the full-time benefits of a coolant filter.

I, and many others, have even posted pictures (in my gallery) of cut open coolant filters done many miles after the first and second ones were changed out... which means, a lot of sediment keeps working itself loose even after 2 - 3 coolant filter changes!!!!!
 

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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yep almost 26k on my motor and i just bought a coolant system from napa part #4019 cant wait to get it on best 45 bucks i could spend.
 
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