Anyone ever heard of one of these added to a Ford. It is a remote mount turbo added to the exhaust (ofcourse), but remote mounted, say at the rear of the vehicle. Sounds like a pretty good add, for a small fee. Any adds or subtractions from someone who knows a little about the system? Feel free!!!!

 

discussed a few times in this forum...I say the adverts are all hype and BS others swear the system works well...I am in the "show me" stage of thought on a remote mounted turbo...

I do a lot of different racing and use turbo charged motors a LOT and have about 20 years experience with them... I say there is no way to remote mount a turbo that far away and NOT have significant lag that would seriously degrade a V10 mated to a 4R100 or 5R110 auto trans.... but I admit I have never even seen one of these units other then in the adverts....so I say...some one please spend the green and prove me wrong....

BTW I am relating this to real world driving of a big assed truck hauling along at 75 MPH in OD at 2250 rpm.... need to pass the truck ahead and once popped out to the left to pass you see a oncoming fast mover...stab the brakes and tuck back in or give it a kick in the *** to move out.... is this the time you want to wait for a turbo to spin up??


I am certain that any turbo mounted in the stream in a racing condition can be spun up for a launch rpm at torque converter stall or on a manual just spun up and eliminate much or all of the lag.... sorry I did not buy this truck to drag race...(except the occasional Hemi(roid))

 

the STS turbo systems have been a pretty popular topic in the Mustang magazines. They have done several installs and have gotten good to great results. They are not cheap though. And like Fredvon said I'm not so sure it would work well in a large heavy truck.

 

I saw a TV show where they installed a kit on a recent-model 'vette.

Pretty interesting. They prevent over-boost by bypassing the exhaust around the turbo. Or straight dump. I don't remember.

No intercooler needed, because the intake runners are so long, and are under the car exposed to cool air.

Very interesting...

 

I was just thinking about the whole vette-no intercooler thing and that has to be bull. There is no way that the charge air could cool that fast coming straight from the rear of the car. What is that distance? 5 feet? I say BS. Besides, there would be "-" pressure under a vette being it is so low causing little or near no airflow.

 

I've seen one on a 05/06 Mustang GT Auto and it is near the rear bumper. It's a smaller turbo to spool up quicker to reduce lag in the long intake pipes and only made 5 psi on this application that I seen. Not sure of the power outputs but they have it working well on the newer mustangs so I don't see any reason it couldn't be stepped up to a V10. Did severly hinder any possibility of passing over med to large speed bumps. With a SD, that shouldn't be an issue.

05/06 Mustang GT is 4.6L
V10 is 6.4L so the exhaust volume is there depending on the turbo and speed of spool if the velocity works with the stock exhaust setup.

 

I think you meant to say that the V0 is 6.8L.

I read a test about an STS turbo'd Suburban...sure wish I could remember what it said...

 

Well, I have a done some research, and there is not a specific kit made for the V-10. A universal kit would have to be used, which is not a problem, but the problem comes in with the tuning. The truck needs to be taken somewhere that can do a hands on tune, the mail order turners (I have been told) will not work. Trouble is finding someone to tune the V-10 truck. GM products do not seem to be as big a problem. I live in East Texas and so far I have found no one to do the tune. Back to the drawing board. I did not realize it would be as involved as it is for the Turbo add, just slap the Turbo on plumb and wire it and away you go. Not sooo fast COWBOY!!!!

 

Fifth, I wonder if the custom tuners would do the job? If you have a laptop you can sit there and put in any maps you want.

I'm seriously SERIOUSLY thinking about a twin turbo setup for my V10 ... for less than $1000, I can get a twin-turbo setup, generic piping, etc, except for the exhaust hookup.

OK, who knows how big a pair of turbos I need for 6000RPM on the V10?

 

Triangle Speed Shop in Orange,Texas is an SCT dealer and they can do any Ford produced up to a few '07 models. They have an on-site Mustand load-cell Dyno and do custom tuning. I trust them with my vehicles-that is a large order-I'm very particular about who works on my stuff.
JL

 

If you're going to do a twin turbo setup, i think it would be best to do the same as what has been done on the new 6.4 powerstroke, one small and on large, the small to spool and the large to take over once its spooled, and i think on a truck where you need the instant tq reponse that may be lagging with an sts style setup when you mash the gas, this would also be beneficial.

 

i know they have no superchargers for the new 3V V10s because they have some sort of variable intake volume? would this also make them hard to tune with a turbo like this remote mount thing?

 

Yes, there is a plate inside the intake that opens and closes to increase or decrease intake volume. The tables that control the opening and closing of it can be adjusted. I am currently putting together a custom made turbo system for my '06 3V. If anyone is interested in one, let me know. My tuner/fab shop, and I are using my truck as an R&D experiment to possible try to market a few kits depending on the results. Right now we are in the fabbing stages. It will use a 67mm turbo, remote mounted close to where the factory air box sits, and uses a 6.0 PSD intercooler. I should have some results to post some time in the next couple of months.

 

Truck 4.6L's have had the same thing since '97-it's nothing new.
JL

 

It just so happens I know a guy who is an associate editor and photographer for Super Chevy magazine, (my son) and he said to stay away from STS. Dakota Wentz (another Super Chevy associate editor) wrote an article in the October 04 issue of super chevy. The folks at STS came down here to California and installed an STS system on his Camaro. The article went to press and the STS system went to hell. Dakota tried in vain to get help on it from STS to no avail.

The got there free ink and that is all they cared about. The system ended up getting yanked out. Ever wonder where all those deals on Ebay come from??