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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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power steering and brakes problem

I read several posts on this topic and, based on the posts, went out and replaced my power steering pump and put in synthetic tranny fluid (Dexron VI). I still can not turn the steering wheel when stopped with the brakes pushed hard. If I just push the brakes a little, I can turn the wheel with difficulty. Sometimes, even without the breaks on it is difficult to turn the steering wheel. Any ideas what the problem really is, and how to fix it? Thanks.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Mine is the same way. Did you go with an upgraded pump or a stock pump?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Stock pump that I got at Checker Auto. I had to pull the reservoir off the old one and put it on the new one. The new one came with the regulator and spring.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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I think people have said to get an upgraded pump, and it is much better but the price for one is IIRC 500$.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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I'm trying to find a source for a heavy duty pump, but haven't found one yet. Any idea where to look?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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OK. I'll keep looking there. I did several searches and couldn't come up with anything. Maybe I'm not using the right search terms. . . . .
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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I havent look at them for awhile. I know that where i seen them.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Why are you trying to steer with your foot heavy on the brake? The reason it won't steer is you are locking the brakes. That makes it very hard on the steering, both because it's using the same pump and because the wheels are locked and don't want to move.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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The steering is orthogonal to the braking. Having the brakes pressed should not, in and of itself, affect the steering much at all if any. There is a hydraulic conflict between the brake booster and the steering gear. Most likely, the brake booster causes a reduction in line pressure which reduces the torque available to the steering gear. One solution might be to put in a second pump, and have one pump run the brakes and the other run the steering. Hmmmm . . . I wonder if it would fit in the location where the second alternator gets put on some of the trucks.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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FWIW my dad's PSD (2002) has no trouble turning with the brakes on hard. A new pump might fix your problem. I've also found that brand new tires turn a whole lot better than older tires with less knobby to flex.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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I just put in a new pump (rebuilt actually, from Pep Boys), and there was no difference. Maybe there's something wrong with the hydrovac . . . . .
 
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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The other thing (besides new tires) is ball joints. I remember when I put new ball joints in the steering was much easier. How are your tires and ball joints?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Tires are OK, about midlife. One thing that changed recently is that I put wheels with different backspacing, so the tires are a little farther out than they were with the stock wheels. Would that cause a problem? I haven't checked the ball joints, need to do that. I looked at them once but didn't try to wiggle them or anything. When it stops raining, I need to get under there and check the whole front end out I guess.
 
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I don't know about the wheels, but to check your ball joints you can jack up the front end and use a pry-bar to try to move the wheel a bit. You most likely can't do it with just your hands.
 
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