How much damage does it take to total a SD
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Originally Posted by mikedeason
You pay for a comparison they will find ways to skew stuff to show practically anything you want. I bet i could find some example where my excursion is safer then a camry or accord, say in a head on collision with either of those vehicles?How often are people slaming into solid immovable objects at 40mph? YOu hit a building at that speed your going through, you hit a pole your 50/50 gonna take it out. Short of hitting a huge tree or some I-Beam from a highway sign theres not many, solid immovable objects being struck from what ive seen.
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the truck had the rearend and trans knocked out the entire bed and driverside was destroyed, heck the leaf springs even came out. one of the leaves flew through the back door of a new dodge intrepid, thank God noone was in the back. when all this took place the truck only had 850 miles on the clock, talk about being pissed. the insurance comany told me that the two estimates "the ford dealer and a indipendant bodyshop" that I was given was not enough to total the truck, so they fixed it... I wanted them to total it , I had "gap" insurance just for that situation so the truck would have been payed off and I would have gotten another new one. working with the insurance people was like pulling teeth out of a tiger, I wound up getting a lawyer to handle it. turns out I wasn't in "good hands" afterall
.. sorry so long
.. sorry so long
Originally Posted by PHWLEE
Mako, i'm curious.... They offered to pay the $27K in repairs instead of declaring the 2000 SD a total!??
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Well I work in a pretty large production collision shop where probably 40% of our jobs are ford superdutys, Our town is full of them!! So in other words Ive fixed lots of severely hurt superdutys. To answer the first question, they are hard to total out, alot of this is due to fact that the parts are pretty cheap. If the frame isnt bent bad its no big deal to straighten them. Ive fixed alot of them with really bent frames, and its a pita!! You just want a qualified shop to do it. Up front they always bend right where the front crossmember is under the motor. These frames are strong though, probly twice as tough as a chevy frame.
Get some pics for us to look at.
Get some pics for us to look at.
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Originally Posted by PHWLEE
Mako, i'm curious.... They offered to pay the $27K in repairs instead of declaring the 2000 SD a total!??
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Originally Posted by Gcrop
If it were a $40-45,000 truck, then $27,000 is what, 60-65% of that?
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it also makes a difference if it was your fault or not. If it is not your fault and the other insurance company is fixing your vehicle, you can demand that they use all factory parts!!! If it is your ins company most use aftermarket parts and thier is not alot you can do about it.
They will also use things like rental as part of your value if they are going to have to rent you a car for a month.... there are alot of things to factor in
They will also use things like rental as part of your value if they are going to have to rent you a car for a month.... there are alot of things to factor in
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i'd get rid of it. i've been the proud owner of three vehicles that got wrecked, i wasnt behind the wheel at the time of the accidents however (it's a bad idea to lend out your vehicles to buddies who dont own trucks, mad girlfriends, and girls in rainstorms). All vehicles sustained front end damage like yours. All vehicle repaired by insurance. All vehicles NEVER ran or worked right after that. Constant front end repairs (tie rods, ball joints, axle seals, etc, etc,) and constant pain in the ***. I've learned the hard way, if a vehicle ever wrecks again, it's cheaper to cut my losses and get rid of it then it is to hang on to it. Just my two cents.
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Stuntbabe, you're wrong, at least in most states. You can't demand a certain part is used. If it is a comparable replacement, aftermarket, used, reman, whatever, it can usually be used. There is a Certified Auto Parts Association that certifies aftermarket parts, although not all aftermarket parts are certified. In many cases you don't have a choice what is used as long as it fits and functions the same.
Pinky, aren't those all issues with Super Dutys anyway?
Pinky, aren't those all issues with Super Dutys anyway?
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Originally Posted by PinkyRingz
i'd get rid of it. i've been the proud owner of three vehicles that got wrecked, i wasnt behind the wheel at the time of the accidents however (it's a bad idea to lend out your vehicles to buddies who dont own trucks, mad girlfriends, and girls in rainstorms). All vehicles sustained front end damage like yours. All vehicle repaired by insurance. All vehicles NEVER ran or worked right after that. Constant front end repairs (tie rods, ball joints, axle seals, etc, etc,) and constant pain in the ***. I've learned the hard way, if a vehicle ever wrecks again, it's cheaper to cut my losses and get rid of it then it is to hang on to it. Just my two cents.
I should get some pics of the superduty Im fixing right now, hard front end hit, radiator support and all coolers shoved into the motor, both fenders crushed, bumper smashed, frame doesnt look bent but will be measured out. Ill guarantee he'll be traveling happy when im done.
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I have personal experience from this past Sunday over the memorial day weekend. '06 250 psd 4wd, I was doing about 60 towing my 12k boat and trailer behind me down a two lan highway with no divider. A little honda civic lost control in the opposite direction and got into my lane. I t-boned it, my family of four is ok. Wife has a cut on forehead and me some cuts on my legs. Two kids in car seat in back have seat belt abrasion. The other two people did not fair so well sad to say. Front end of my truck was half way through that car.
Asked my wife Tuesday what type of vehicle she would like to get for me again. BIG DIESEL truck. Insurance company will probably total out the truck. Preliminary repairs are already at 29k without hidden damage.
Enough said.
Asked my wife Tuesday what type of vehicle she would like to get for me again. BIG DIESEL truck. Insurance company will probably total out the truck. Preliminary repairs are already at 29k without hidden damage.
Enough said.
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The other issue is the use of salvage parts in the repair. This is not limited to certain types of body shops either. One of the larger Ford Dealer shops in my area will use salvage parts for every part of the repair where they can save money. Of course, it is the insurance companies who are to largely to blame. I was shocked to see how the system worked when we recently had a 2000 SD repaired that was also nearly totalled.
I would be curious to find out which insurance companies do not demand salvage parts for repair. In this instance, the woman who hit our company truck was insured by Progressive. Based on my experience, I would stay away from ever using Progressive Insurance.
I would be curious to find out which insurance companies do not demand salvage parts for repair. In this instance, the woman who hit our company truck was insured by Progressive. Based on my experience, I would stay away from ever using Progressive Insurance.
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chi - if you don't mind me asking, and I'm sorry if my asking upsets you - but you said the other occupants "did not fair so well" ... can I assume that meant fatalities ? I'm just wondering.
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Originally Posted by Ace!
Stuntbabe, you're wrong, at least in most states. You can't demand a certain part is used. If it is a comparable replacement, aftermarket, used, reman, whatever, it can usually be used.
Pinky, aren't those all issues with Super Dutys anyway?
Pinky, aren't those all issues with Super Dutys anyway?
You can also get loss of use (or a rental) and diminished value.
IF YOUR ins co is paying, you have a contract with them and 99% of those little flyers they send you say that aftermarket parts can be used. And the loss of use and diminished value would be dependent on what insurance you have.
I am not wrong, reguardless if there is a Certified used part assoc. or not. If you do not have a contract with the company that is repairing your vehicle you can DENY aftermarket parts or LKQ.
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