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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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All right, for nearly 6 months I have been trying to figure out why my GPM has dropped, I have tried just about every suggestion and test you all have given me, or given some one else, no improvement. I went to the gas station the other day, and hit the wrong pump, didnt realize it until i got me a reciept. Would not have Risked such a move for a simple 9.00 savings. But I did it, I have off road diesel in my truck right now, and i am getting up to 15 in the city. WTF,
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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All right, for nearly 6 months I have been trying to figure out why my GPM has dropped, I have tried just about every suggestion and test you all have given me, or given some one else, no improvement. I went to the gas station the other day, and hit the wrong pump, didnt realize it until i got me a reciept. Would not have Risked such a move for a simple 9.00 savings. But I did it, I have off road diesel in my truck right now, and i am getting up to 15 in the city. WTF,
Dont know what to tell you... Its the same stuff... Just with red die in it...
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Dont know what to tell you... Its the same stuff... Just with red die in it...
I had heard ( or thought I had ) they were not required to lower the sulfer contenet on the off road use stuff.
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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may be due to lubrication offroad fuel still has the additives we can't run
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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that is right. farm diesel is exempt.
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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don't get caught with it in your tank
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Just food for thought, Nonroad Diesel Fuel. At the Tier 1-3 stage, the sulfur content in nonroad diesel fuels was not limited by environmental regulations. The oil industry specification was 0.5% (wt., max), with the average in-use sulfur level of about 0.3% = 3,000 ppm. To enable sulfur-sensitive control technologies in Tier 4 engines—such as catalytic particulate filters and NOx adsorbers—the EPA mandated reductions in sulfur content in nonroad diesel fuels, as follows:

500 ppm effective June 2007 for nonroad, locomotive and marine (NRLM) diesel fuels
15 ppm (ultra-low sulfur diesel) effective June 2010 for nonroad fuel, and June 2012 for locomotive and marine fuels
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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don't get caught with it in your tank
No kidding, like I said, the 9.00 savings was not worth the risk, but now it is starting to look like more of a savings when you figure in the MPG increase. Then, you figure the wear on your motor with the decrease in sulfer. I mean look at what happen to the gassers when they went to no-lead, valve stems guides wore out, you had to upgrade you valve guides, what is this sulfer change going to do to my motor in the long run......
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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QUOTE Then, you figure the wear on your motor with the decrease in sulfer. I mean look at what happen to the gassers when they went to no-lead, valve stems guides wore out, you had to upgrade you valve guides, what is this sulfer change going to do to my motor in the long run......[/QUOTE]


Back in the day I used lead substitute and everything was good

with the mandate of unleaded came the invent of the F-150
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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farm fuel is all i run in my rig. Truck sticks like shart when its hot!

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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Whoa, where did u find a station around here that let you pump red into your truck? Last time i tried(on accident of course!) they told me that i couldnt pump it into the truck. When i had a transfer tank that i needed for heating oil, they let me pump red, but i had to sign a wavier stating i would not run it on the road. Its too much BS for me to run red fuel so i never run it.
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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There is absolutely no difference between off road and on road diesel fuel except for the red dye! I work for an engineering firm that designs and builds truck loading facilities and the only thing different is the dye. you might be getting better mileage now that winter blend diesel is gone for the summer months but its not the dye. As everyone said dont get caught with it in your tank!!!
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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Thanks guys, for letting me vent, I hope you are right Red Boat, it would be nice to get better MPG, even if it is just for the summer, and like I had said before, I did not intend to put it in my tank, and I now know what pumps not to hit ( new gas station ). Have a great one!! And to all you vets out there, A special thanks to you this weekend( on top of the one's you should get all year ), Glad your Home, and Great Job!!!!I will stop and share my thanks with the Vets that wont hear me again Monday...
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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So how did you remedy the non-tax fuel situation? Just curious.
Pay the tax and carry the reciept in case they want to dip your tank?
 
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