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Old May 21, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Timing on 5.0

I have an 89 F-150 5.0 and i'm trying to get the timing set at a point i'm happy with. It ran terrible on 87 octane, and not too great on 89, so i was forced to run 91. I thought i'd try adjusting the timing to get it to run on cheaper gas, and maybe get a little more performance (if thats possible at the same time). I know its set at 10 degrees btc stock, and it was right on when i checked with the light. i decided to bump it up a little, and its right around 14-15 now if i understand it correctly. I noticed a pretty decent jump in acceleration after this, but it still runs better on 91. it makes a little different noise running 89 and i can tell over the sound of no muffler. i'm kind of in the dark about where to set it. i'd like it to run on cheaper gas if possible, and i'd like to see a little performance boost without burning through my cylinder walls. any input would be awesome. Thanks.
 
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Old May 21, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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To run on cheaper gas (lower octane) you have to deadvance, not advance the timing.
 
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Old May 21, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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that makes sense. guess thats how knock sensors work. thanks.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bigsky22
Ii'd like it to run on cheaper gas if possible, and i'd like to see a little performance boost without burning through my cylinder walls.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Set it to 10 BTDC. That's what the motor is designed to run at. Anything more and you're risking detonation.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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yeah that the way its looking. any ideas why it only runs on 91? and when i say it only runs on 91, i mean it. it has no power running 87, and gets worse mileage anyway.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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There could be any number of more serious issues. Your timing chain could be wearing out, your engine could be full of carbon, you could have cracked heads, a sensor somewhere could be bad, etc.

Or it could be something simple like the distributor being off a tooth.

Jason
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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I have read in some older posts that after resetting the timing, and changing to the new lower octane gas, remove the negative battery cable for about a half hour.
This resets the computer and it relearns your engine and it's sensors.
It might idle or run funny the first few times you start, run and warm it up as the computer reprograms itself.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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i may give that a try. the octane problem isnt anything serious. i know that because the truck rips for an 89 5.0. it hasnt been abused either. the only thing i think thats possible is an old timing chain. thanks for your inputs.
 
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