E85 Conversion kits?
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E85 Conversion kits?
Is there anything on the market to convert a non-flex fuel vehicle to run on E85? We have an 03 Expedition I'd like to convert as well as a couple of non-Fords.
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From what I've last heard there are no EPA approved kits.. therefore anything that had a "kit" installed would be illegal for highway use.
But I CAN guarantee there are some out there.. just couldn't tell you where.
But I CAN guarantee there are some out there.. just couldn't tell you where.
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Have to do a search, but I believe some were posted a while back that were legal with restrictions... mostly intended for older vehicles. EPA is still not approving any non-OEM stuff very well... at least not a t a reasonable price tag...
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Here are a couple of links that should help you.
http://flextek.com/
http://www.change2e85.com/
Good luck!
v/r,
Phil
http://flextek.com/
http://www.change2e85.com/
Good luck!
v/r,
Phil
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It isn't the fuels that are the problem -- it's the conversion kits. What they seem to be sayiing is
1. Nobody seems to be submitting kits for EPA approval
2. Approval is probably expensive, because you have to prove that the system will work correctly for a bizillion miles -- and that you will fix it if it doesn't
You can have various types of pollution with anything -- if you burn it wrong. So, somebody needs to prove to the EPA that their kit will work the way that it's supposed to.
I'm guessing that it comes down to $$$. Nobody can figure out how to make enough money selling kits to justify the expense of getting them approved.
And, they'd probably have to be approved separately for each application. And, of course, the auto companies would try to void any warranty on a converted vehicle. (Yes, there's a law, but they'd try).
Just my opinions
ford2go
1. Nobody seems to be submitting kits for EPA approval
2. Approval is probably expensive, because you have to prove that the system will work correctly for a bizillion miles -- and that you will fix it if it doesn't
You can have various types of pollution with anything -- if you burn it wrong. So, somebody needs to prove to the EPA that their kit will work the way that it's supposed to.
I'm guessing that it comes down to $$$. Nobody can figure out how to make enough money selling kits to justify the expense of getting them approved.
And, they'd probably have to be approved separately for each application. And, of course, the auto companies would try to void any warranty on a converted vehicle. (Yes, there's a law, but they'd try).
Just my opinions
ford2go
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From: Running Springs CA
Originally Posted by fellro86
I would be curious to know just how propane and ethanol as well as methanol are "dirtier" by emissions standards...
Propane conversions that I have seen are very "crude" compared to a stock gasoline injection system.
Jim
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Here is a site for you to see if one is near you. There are several in Az.
http://www.e85refueling.com/
http://www.e85refueling.com/
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