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My nephew just bought a 2000 Tacoma and I'm hearing crap about Toyota quality.
Personally with 150,000 mostly trouble free miles on my 1992 Ranger SC 3.0, I don't see how a Toyota could possibly be any better, but maybe I'm blinded by Ford Blue. I did work a vending route once with a machine at a Toyota Dealer. Everytime I was there, the shop was full of Toyotas being worked on....
Were they all oil changes ?
Anyone have any insight, ammunition I can use ?
BPF
1992 Ranger SC 3.0 - 152,000 miles
1991 Mustang LX 5.0 - 165,000 miles
2007 Escape Limited - 2,400 miles
It's a Toyota...it sells extremely well, can comfortably fit more people in a crew cab, betters the Ranger in terms of horsepower.
The Ranger has been around longer, perhaps more reliable, can tow more.
Either one will go the distance if the maintenance is done right.
Either one will go the distance if the maintenance is done right.
So true, however, if any vehicle is properly maintained I believe it will go the distance. Still, we are talking Ford vs Toyota here, and I don't think there will be a clear winner as loyalty means a lot to some people. The Ranger has not changed much over the years and yet, there is still a large following of people who continue to buy it. The Tacoma has the crew cab option, but a lot of people don't need or want that option. Me personally, I would choose the Ranger everytime. I prefer to buy American.
You can go into a Ford dealer and find the shop full of Fords too, and they aren't all oil changes either.
I myself would buy another Ranger, given the same circumstances as when I bought this one. But given my current situation, if I were to buy another truck, it still wouldn't be a Toyota. I'd be looking for at least an F 250 4x4, possibly an F 350 crew cab dually. Most likely a 95 or 96. Preferably diesel.
But, if you want to talk about unkillable trucks, an 81 Toyota 2wd I had just would not die. It had a rusted, cracked, repaired and cracked again frame. The only thing holding it together was the box leaning on the cab. Given all that, I could take a high speed corner in the inside lane and box out a 5.0 Mustang from merging. I ended up giving that truck away for $200.
Toyota 'strongly' recommends high test gas for their engines. They run like crap with regular 87 octane from what I've read. Smaller engine(tacoma), so I'ts hopped up to do the job. They get better mpgs, but they better with that in mind. Like a Ranger with a Bama programmed for higher octane. As the guys above said. Properly maintained, you'll get good lifetime with minimal trouble from both, but when it does come time to pay for repairs, the yoda parts will part alot more money out of your wallet. Check out just the price of an alternator for the Tacoma. For years, the japanese car makers ran a successful ad campain on 'reliablitity' and the big three are still suffering the effects of the way they used to do business years ago.
Toyotas are damn good trucks. I can't honestly say I think they're any less reliable than the Ranger. I wouldn't buy one, but that's a separate issue.
The biggest problem with them, really, is that they cost a fortune used. If you're one of those wierd people who trades a vehicle after three years, that's to your advantage. If you're looking to buy a three year old truck, you can get a lot nicer Ranger than Tacoma for your money.
theres a reason behind that............the same reason my civic and other hondas and toyotas have great resale value.....i will let you decide the answer.
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Toyota 'strongly' recommends high test gas for their engines. They run like crap with regular 87 octane from what I've read.
I know of no Toyota 4 or 6 cylinder engine that Toyota recommends anything higher than 87 octane. The information on what Toyota recommends as far as octane is concerned is at toyota.com. The 3.0 3.3 and 3.5 V6 Toyota engines all run just fine on 87 octane. .
Honda's and Toyota cost more used because they don't offer high dollar rebates, or are sold in mass quantities as fleet vehicles (rentals). Less than 2% of all Honda's sold are fleet sales, and Honda, at least on Accord's and Civics rarely offers rebates higher than $500.00. About 7% of Toyotas are sold as fleet sales, and Toyota rarely offers more than $500.00 rebates on cars, $1000.00-$1500.00 on trucks, and that $1500.00 figure was offered only on 2006 Tundras, to clear them off lots.
Last edited by NumberDummy; May 17, 2007 at 08:25 AM.
theres a reason behind that............the same reason my civic and other hondas and toyotas have great resale value.....i will let you decide the answer.
Hey Jeremy, "decide this;" where do you want the profit to go for your next new truck???
Detroit? or Tokyo? I don't care where they are built, they are owned by a Japanese company. How about you move to Japan and THEN buy your new truck?
I know Toyota's are dependable, but the prices for used ones are out of line with their prices new. We bought our '00 Ranger with 62k for $9500. It's loaded (Off Road, all power, 4.0, auto, 4 door SC, flareside). The closest I could come in a Toyota was a '98 with 105k for $10,500. To me, the difference in miles alone makes that an easy choice. I doubt the Toyota would last any longer, and I know it would cost more to repair. And yes, I have owned a Toyota product before. Great car, but the cost of parts was ridiculous.
When you buy a Toyota, you will pay later because maint. on them is more expensive, and many times a dealer is the only one that can fix it and the only one with the parts.
When you buy a Toyota, you will pay later because maint. on them is more expensive, and many times a dealer is the only one that can fix it and the only one with the parts.
i am not trying to start an argument here, but that is the biggest line of b.c. i have ever heard.
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