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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Old School fuel delivery?

I have a 1994 F150 with the 302. Has anyone out there removed the high pressure fuel system and replaced it with a good old fashioned carb? Is there a place on the block for a mechanical style pump?
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Why would you want to? I guarantee it's much much more work than finding and fixing whatever's wrong with the current system.
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Yeah, I keep thinking the same thing but then all the thing does is jerk, jump, and spit. I want more power anyway; MUCH more. I guess I am looking for a reason to put some good heads in place and I feel that the current induction system won't be up to the task...
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Stay with fuel enj. You can get a lot more power if you just up grade the enj. Dont get me wrong I am a carb guy, but if you wont more power fuel enj. is the best.
 
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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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fix what is wrong.

you will thank us for this advice later.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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If you really want to it can be done. First you should ask yourself what your goals are. As everyone else has pointed out it may be more realistic (and cost effective) to stick with the fuel injection. There are 1000+ hp engines out there running efi. If you have an electronically controlled automatic transmission you would have to buy an expensive stand-alone transmission control unit or be skilled enough to fabricate brackets and wire in the necessary sensors. A manual trans swap to avoid that issue can also be expensive. You need to re-vamp your ignition system as well as your fuel system. Here are some links to threads I have participated in regarding a carb conversion which should give you some idea of what's involved:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...-92-truck.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...arb+conversion
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=908443
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=813727

On my truck I did not remove the high pressure fuel system but used a return style fuel pressure regulator to reduce the fuel pressure to carb requirements. I did not use a mechanical fuel pump because that requires the cost of changing the timing cover, adding a fuel pump eccentric and extending the fuel line.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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in other words, even though it can be done, you really would have to want to do this.

leave it efi and modify that if you feel the need.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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You can convert it to MAF (mass air flow) in a weekend, then it will handle better heads, a bigger cam, and headers. I really wouldn't be one to try to lose the smog controls as it's a hefty fine if someone finds out. It's not likely to happen, but it has and will.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Thumbs up Mass Air Flow

I guess I must be a little naive but I thought the truck already had a mass air flow sensor. What do you mean when you say it would take a weekend to convert it? Would it be using the current injectors, etc. What would it cost to do this, as I would like to upgarde the heads...
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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If it already is (I thought that only cali-emissions '94s were MAF) then you can pretty easily get away with a head or cam change.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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How in the world would I know? Can I look at the engine and see anything specific?
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Look for a mass air sensor between your air cleaner box and throttle body.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Yep, the part is there but the truck was sold new in Kentucky; go figure...
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Fords seems to phase its product in and out. The good part is that you can have an earlier model with later technology but the bad part is that you don't have a hard and fast date for that development. That makes it hard when looking for parts (and advice) unless you know exactly what you have. Since you have mass air you can have your computer tuned with a chip. You may even be able to use something like a tweecer or PMS if you want to do the tuning yourself. I'm more familiar with those things in relation to Mustangs but someone around here should know.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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thanks for the info!
 
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