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Old May 2, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Wrong oil pan?

ok 76 F250 supercab camper special 2wd 390ci(maybe?).

I went to change the oil for the first time on my truck yesterday, and guess what...

The oil drain plug is located directly above a frame crossmember.

Is this how it's supposed to be? I have to rig up some sort of deflector to get the oil to drain into my catch basin. Either that, or let the oil drain down onto the crossmember and ooze out all over the floor (looks like PO prefered this approach... friggin mess).

I suspect an engine swap from a different model... possibly a 4x4.

Any ideas? How easy will it be to find the right pan, and how easy to swap. The swap would probably require the removal of the engine, yes?

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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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Sounds to me like a car engine in a truck.

What I did with my 429 was to weld in a pipe fitting coupler to the front of the oil pan to accept a drain plug.

I barely crawl under the truck anymore.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Trucks have a 6 quart oil capacity, cars have 5.


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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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my truck is the same way. i have a 460 and it is a pain in the a** to change the oil. i will swap the pan. i think the guys are right probably a car engine.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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There is a kit out there that will let you convert from a front sump oil pan which mainly was present in cars. Like my 460 for instance. Which still has the front sump and when i change the oil, well pain in the but doesn't cover it. The kit will let you convert to a rear sump oil pan making changing oil a lot easier.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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My 76 F150 2WD 360 has front sump, oil drain is over the cross member, I've seen at least one other one the same, I think they came that way.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Well I guess I'll make do with it. Might try the weld in valve thing, but how hard is it (if possible) to remove the oil pan without taking the engine out?

I know it isn't possible with most vehicles, unless you drop the whole suspension out from under the car.

Will also change the oil and see if it takes 5 or 6 quarts. Will let y'all know.

Stupid engineers.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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I'll take a picture of mine tomorrow so you can see it.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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Heres a very handy little gadget that might be a simple fix for this. www.fumotovalve.com

I've done over million miles on my last 8 cars & trucks all with the fumotovalve installed & never a problem.

Check out the one that you attach a hose to.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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No, no, no.

It IS factory. This only apply on 2WD pickups. The optional "right-of-way" drain plug only existed on 4wd trucks.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/604214-oil-pan.html

Similar thread.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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When I bought my 77' 4x4 f150 it had a 460 in it. It came from a Lincoln land yauht and had the front sump oil pan. I could deal with the oil change problem but it hit the front diff. I would get aggrasive off roading and when I jumped the truck it would bend the bottom of the oil pan upwards on landing. It would bend in more and more until it started to bend the oil pickup spout and drop oil pressure. I could drop the oil pan but it would not clear the oil pump and pickup to come out because it hit the top of the diff. I had to reach into the half dropped pan and remove the oil pump to remove the pan. A pain in the a..! I could then knock the pan back out from the inside with a hammer and straighten the bent pickup spout. I did about twice before I finally found the conversion kit. It moved the lower sump pan to the rear and came with an extended pickup spout to reach back and down into the pan. Solved every thing. I could even get for air then with no problem.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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That's what we suggest to people with 4x4's here all the time.

Getting a rear sump pan and pickup tube from a E-series 460.

The 4x2 can get away with a front sump drain hole like I have.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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My plug is the same way. Its over the crossmember So i have to lift the truck and put the pan as close as possible. I know this doesn't help but just watch your eyes when changing your oil
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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I can't believe they built the trucks like that. I have a 360 in my '77 2wd. When I changed the oil, I figured the motor had come from a 4x4. Here I thought only GM did dumb stuff like that...
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Soilman
When I bought my 77' 4x4 f150 it had a 460 in it. It came from a Lincoln land yauht and had the front sump oil pan. I could deal with the oil change problem but it hit the front diff. I would get aggrasive off roading and when I jumped the truck it would bend the bottom of the oil pan upwards on landing. It would bend in more and more until it started to bend the oil pickup spout and drop oil pressure. I could drop the oil pan but it would not clear the oil pump and pickup to come out because it hit the top of the diff. I had to reach into the half dropped pan and remove the oil pump to remove the pan. A pain in the a..! I could then knock the pan back out from the inside with a hammer and straighten the bent pickup spout. I did about twice before I finally found the conversion kit. It moved the lower sump pan to the rear and came with an extended pickup spout to reach back and down into the pan. Solved every thing. I could even get for air then with no problem.
had same problem when I stuck the last 400 in my truck it was from a liclon kept hitting the diff... I just added 4-6 inches of lift that fixed it
 
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