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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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its funny i just did a fox news poll

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should any us oil company maintain ties with venezuelas hugo chavez?

47,152 votes

yes=8 % 3,678
no=90% 42,648
not sure=2% 826


glad im not the only one who feels that way.

if iran gave him a bomb gauranteed he would give it to some group to smuggle here.
hes a POS
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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See...The Biggest problem when it comes to Gasoline Wars.......Gasoline Always Wins.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Send $10 to the Reverend Dono and I will pray for gas to go down to $1.75. $20 will get you a prayer for $1.50 gas plus an autographed picture of John the Baptist ($0.99 S&H). This is as likely to work as the suggested boycott and will serve a good cause (me).
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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I work 85 miles from my home nd have to buy gas pretty much every day (can go 2 days, but then the 'walk' light illuminates). I would love to see the price go down, but it isn't until the government stops taxing it so much. Besides, as has already been said, there are so many things that rely on oil, that not buying gasoline will have little, if any, effect ont he industry.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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The only thing that effects the price of gas is the gas companies.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mil1ion
The concept is dumb in IMO.

The only real way to get prices down and stay down is doing it my way.

But it is Impossible

I agree it's a dumb idea. And I agree your way is impossible. But I don't agree that it is the only way. Nothing is impossible. That's loser talk.

If you want to fix the oil mess, do it my way.

Block the gas from leaving the refinery. Don't let the trucks thru. People will stop buying gas when the gas station runs out of gas. How hard is that?

More important, the refinery will stop buying oil. The refinery will be full of gas there will be no room to unload the oil tankers.

And the speculators who hold the contracts to buy the oil on those tankers will lose their *** if no one is going to buy it from them.

Keep those refineries shut. Let them all bleed for a while and follow the red ink till you sniff out the speculators and the rat bankers that are bankrolling them. Probably with the hundreds of billions that Exxon is making. Follow the money. It will be impossible for Congress not to investigate this mess and clamp down on illegal immigration if the American people stand their ground.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by freirefishing
its funny i just did a fox news poll

question
should any us oil company maintain ties with venezuelas hugo chavez?

47,152 votes

yes=8 % 3,678
no=90% 42,648
not sure=2% 826


glad im not the only one who feels that way.

if iran gave him a bomb gauranteed he would give it to some group to smuggle here.
hes a POS
They did a news report right after Hugo's comments that 7-11 was having problems with citgo and this pushed them over the edge so that they took citgo gas out of every one of their like 2,000 stores accross the county. I'm going to 7-11 more.
-matt
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CAFordDude
The only thing that effects the price of gas is the gas companies.
How is it strictly the oil companies fault if they are making something like 9%profit? That's pretty low for a profit margin.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Even if you get all those people to boycott that particular brand of station, you have to remember that some of the no-name stations sell the big name stuff.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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9% profit is nothing when you sell in low quantities. How many millions of gallons are sold each day of gas and diesel? 9% on millions of sales is crazy. Any way you cut it the oil companies are gouging us, there just isnt anything we can do within reason.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stu37d
How is it strictly the oil companies fault if they are making something like 9%profit? That's pretty low for a profit margin.
Where do you place the "blame" because your word of "fault" implies there is blame to be had for the prices.

Who "mines" the oil? Oil companies. Who processes the oil? Oil companies. Who transports the oil? Oil companies. Who sells the oil? Oil companies. Who buys the oil? Consumers.

From Earth to consumer I count 5 steps. Oil companies control or are responsible for 4 of the 5 steps. Who do you think controls the cost of gasoline? You can say the states stick it to the consumer by adding all the taxes, which I don't deny, but the taxes do not change on a daily basis only the actual cost of the gasoline.

What do you consider a reasonable profit margin on a business that generates billions of dollars every year?
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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Id seriously like to meet the ill informed moron that wrote the original email.
The "I'll informed morons" that wrote the original Email were a Coca-Cola VP and some Halliburton engineers. What are your credentials?
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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can you cite that source please
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CAFordDude
Who "mines" the oil? Oil companies. Who processes the oil? Oil companies. Who transports the oil? Oil companies. Who sells the oil? Oil companies. Who buys the oil? Consumers.

From Earth to consumer I count 5 steps. Oil companies control or are responsible for 4 of the 5 steps. Who do you think controls the cost of gasoline?
The oil companies.

And the more oil Exxon can keep under their control, the less oil is offered for sale on the commodities exchange.

And if this oil isn't being offered for sale on any exchange, then it can't push down prices either.

So the supply/demand equilibrium that says we have to pay $65/barrel for a barrel of oil, is a fraud.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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From Earth to consumer I count 5 steps. Oil companies control or are responsible for 4 of the 5 steps. Who do you think controls the cost of gasoline? You can say the states stick it to the consumer by adding all the taxes, which I don't deny, but the taxes do not change on a daily basis only the actual cost of the gasoline.
OK, good points, but you forgot a couple things: supply and demand. Yes, I kow that's one way to raise prices, but look at it this way: If the price of gas was $1.99 during the heaviest driving months of the year (right now through the summer) there would be no supply. People would be going ike crazy as a result of the (ahem) 'low' price of fuel. The price needs to go up to prevent the compnaies form running out. Why would they run out? Simple, there have been no new refineries built since around 1970 (ish). As far as I know, refineries are being run at max (or nearly max) capacity. You want more supply? Build more resources to make the product.

Also, why does it make a difference if your industry makes 9% on 1 million or a hundred billion? It is still only 9 cents on the dollar.

What do you consider a reasonable profit margin on a business that generates billions of dollars every year?
Well, I reckon I figure 9% is about right. Are you suggesting that perhaps Big Brother get involved and regulate how much profit those evil oil companies are allowed to make? What do you have against capitalism?
 
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