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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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installed new dp chip

something must be wrong cause I have read on here about everyone loving them, and a lot better than others. I got the 40, 60 tow 80 econo, 120 race, and 140 smoke. My truck has the 5" straight pipe, kwik filter, prepump mods including prepump pump and other fuel mods, plus of coarse gauges nothing serious but enough for now. Well 40 and 60 tow acted like I expected them to, but the 80 econo is almost as strong as the 60hp on the predator I just removed, and ends up at higher egt (1100 vs 1050) and lower boost preasures (24 vs 28-30) 120 race is unusable, from a standing start within 200ft egt at 1200 and climbing fast.
So whats wrong, could it be that I am running B50 and this just isn't setup for it, or is something else amiss? I know from everyone elses experience on here that something has to be wrong, only changes today were to return the stock mod from the predator and install the dp so it's not like something else changed (1 mod at a time to see the difference good or bad) Please someone tell me.

BTW this was run on a route I drive everyday, so I know how the truck acts in the same area.
 

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Mmmmm, I am sure someone will chime in here with better answers than I can possibly give, but the 80 eco should blow that 60 predator tune away. Even in 120 I don't see temps climb that fast, and I only (only haha) have a 4" straight exhaust. I can easily get above 25 psi with these tunes, so something seems amiss..Somebody should be by any time with a possible answer.....
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Ok one thing I only drove it a few miles after installing the chip, I had both batteries unhooked so is it possible it just needs to be run for a while to relearn? I have to go to DesMoines tomorrow it's 65 miles each way maybe that will do it unless someone pops on here with something I haven't thought about. I know this should be better than the predator, thats why I am questioning this. If so many people hadn't posted the improvements I would just think it wasn't that great but I know everyone has, and I know Jody has spent a lot of time with these tunes instead of just some first run generic like diablosport has I am sure.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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I would make a quick call to Jody, as I think they are closed tomorrow. I have had mine out to send back and get programs added, and both times I unhooked the batteries, so I don't think that is it.... Good luck, when it is right you will know it...
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Have you tried calling Jody? Something's definately not right.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Rob does you truck smoke when you got on it?
maybe you getting to much fuel cause of a bad contact on the PCM pins, making it dump more fuel and or not reading sensors correctly?
cause just going form one chip to another not much changes, so you should not see that much diference, unless you chip was not burned properly?
anyone can make an mistake , even THE BEST like Jody
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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pete I get a puff of smoke in 80, a little more in 120, as to calling them I figured on it but I knew it was getting close to closing time today and they are closed tomorrow so didn't call yet. hoped it was something simple etc cause I hate driving this thing around stock. lol

Oh I didn't add what 140 smoke did, it puffed smoke for a couple of seconds taking off not a lot and definatly pulled hard egt's stayed a lot lower than they did on 120. I didn't try really lugging it on the smoke like I read on another thread about it mainly cause I was taking off and as I did another vehicle was coming up behind me so just got on it and ran up to speed. Like I said I have to run tomorrow so will give it another shot just to see. As to the contacts I did clean them really good as per the instructions and multiple threads on here truck starts and runs fine and you can definatly tell the difference between the different tunes (and so nice being able to switch on the fly, main reason for the purchase) I am mainly just disappointed as I was expecting quit a bit of improvement over the predator, and basically I really don't see it, tow is about like tow on teh predator (driving around empty that is) 80 econo is about like 60 econo. I never ran the 100hp performance on the predator to compare it to the 120 race, and I wasn't all that impressed with the 85hp setting on the predator, actually come to think about it that acted about like 80 econo is on this one, little higher egt, about the same boost or slightly lower without feeling any stronger. I have a hill I pull as to a test, set distance etc in stock I can hit right close to 32mph, predator 60 econo I hit 45-47mph 80 econo on this I hit right at 47 thats kind of my benchmark for deciding it's not any stronger.
Like I said I will try again tomorrow and see.
 

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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monsterbaby,

Jody will be here catching up from being gone last week.

Since you have gone from a programmer to a chip, the first thing to check would be the contacts of the J3 port. If they are not cleaned well then it will cause a poor connection. The next thing to check would be for boost leaks. Do you have a boost regulator in the map line? I will have Jody double check on his end the programming. Double check the invoive to make sure of the programs he gave you. Make sure that are in the correct order. Give him a call early in the morning. I will not be here. I will let him know you will be calling.


program order should be-

0-stock
1-stock
2-40
3-60
4-80E
5-120 Race
6-140 aggressive

Diane

On edit: in the 80 econo your boost should be between 28-30psi. Around 32 in the 120 and close to 34 in the 140.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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See, now that's what I call customer service! (see other post Turbonetics)
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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a little puff sounds ok, to test it if all works well, drive about 40mph, in lowest program, without moving you foot, switch programs, you should get progresively more power and more speed, if not than somthing might be wrog with the chip, once you go from stock to 60tow,than 80econo, it should make big diference, once you hit120 it should really jump, before any changes it made big diference, and i had the same setup on my truck as you have now,
140 had a little diference over 120 , ew people reported no diference, mine had enough seat of pants diference to tell.

edited, since you edited yours,
and you answered most of it
 

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Diane I was editing my post while you were replying, thank you for the quick reply BTW. I have the ITP regulator in the map line, and my gauge is t'd in just before the regulator. As to boost leaks I would not think that was the issue as earlier today I had the predator on there, reset it to stock, and installed the chip I did not touch anything else on teh truck between taking one out and installing the other.

and that is the correct programs and in the order we discussed.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Rob anoher thing, did you drive the truck after you reflashed the predator?
my sugestion would be, and im sure you know what you doing, pull DP out, and reflash with predator to stock program again, maybe flash did somting?
or didn flash it correctly?than reinstall Dp back in
i would try it if you have no other ideas,
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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I just want to add, I am not trying to slam here, I talked with Diane for quit awhile and had no doubt the customer service is wonderful. the shipping was fast, I knew they had been busy this past week with everything going on. maybe I am expecting too much out of it I don't know, just figured that it should be a noticable diff. I did notice each progressive program getting stronger as I went up, and I noticed a difference from 120 to 140 even, actually 140 kept the egt a lot lower than 120 (it never got over 1150 in 140 although I was on flat ground, and I have to admit a slight upgrade when I tried 120.

And yes I did drive the truck after reflash before installing the chip. just wanted to remind myself what stock feels like yuck. also drove it in stock on the dp and felt the same.
 
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Umm...

Well then I would definately talk with Jody. This is very odd for the PMT1 programming.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Monsterbaby,


I didn't take it that way. No one else should either. This is what this forum is for. To ask questions and potentially get the answers you need.

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