A question for you that do roofing...
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A question for you that do roofing...
My future wife has an old home that needs a roof. The house has the origainal wood shake roof and three layers of shingles over that. There are approx 73 squares and the roof is a 16/12 pitch....steep!
To tear off the 4 layers of roofing, add 1/2 plywood decking(over the lath strips), felt and 30 year shingles, what do you think it would cost to do all that?
I have a 'quote' already.
A metal roof for this place doing the same work? Guess again!
To tear off the 4 layers of roofing, add 1/2 plywood decking(over the lath strips), felt and 30 year shingles, what do you think it would cost to do all that?
I have a 'quote' already.
A metal roof for this place doing the same work? Guess again!
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I did this very same thing about 2 years ago. Only real difference is that I had 53 squares. Anyway, I had three quotes at $14,500 $13,500 and $12,100. These were using 1/2" OSB for decking, ridge vents and 20-year shingles.
This was right before Hurricane Katrina blew through. The roof held fine. I am in Mississippi.
I checked on a metal roof - quotes were double those prices!
This was right before Hurricane Katrina blew through. The roof held fine. I am in Mississippi.
I checked on a metal roof - quotes were double those prices!
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I had a quote at first for 30 thousand then the company dropped it to 27 thousand by using 1/2' OSB board.
They will haul off the debris, give me a 15 year warranty on the labor and install and then do a magnet sweep to get up the nails. I was told that most likely the wood shakes were held on with maybe copper or brass nails. The original wood strips for the shakes are held to the rafters with square nails.
Any truth to the fact that the shakes are held on with either of the two metals?
And yes....metal roof? 60 thousand!
They will haul off the debris, give me a 15 year warranty on the labor and install and then do a magnet sweep to get up the nails. I was told that most likely the wood shakes were held on with maybe copper or brass nails. The original wood strips for the shakes are held to the rafters with square nails.
Any truth to the fact that the shakes are held on with either of the two metals?
And yes....metal roof? 60 thousand!
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This thread reminds me of when my friend was replacing some wood shingles on the back side of his house. The roof also had a steep pitch. In fact, he kept sliding so he tied one end of a long rope around his waist, threw the other end over the top of the roof, and told his son to tie it off to something sturdy which the kid did and then left. Well, a few minutes later, his wife who didn't know anything about what was going on, came out the front late for an appointment, jumped in the car which was parked in the driveway, threw it in reverse, and sped back down the driveway. You guessed it...the kid had tied the rope to the front bumper! That guy is still picking splinters out of his butt!
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Originally Posted by ddrumman2004
was told that most likely the wood shakes were held on with maybe copper or brass nails. The original wood strips for the shakes are held to the rafters with square nails.
Any truth to the fact that the shakes are held on with either of the two metals?
Any truth to the fact that the shakes are held on with either of the two metals?
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Originally Posted by Keepin It Real
This thread reminds me of when my friend was replacing some wood shingles on the back side of his house. The roof also had a steep pitch. In fact, he kept sliding so he tied one end of a long rope around his waist, threw the other end over the top of the roof, and told his son to tie it off to something sturdy which the kid did and then left. Well, a few minutes later, his wife who didn't know anything about what was going on, came out the front late for an appointment, jumped in the car which was parked in the driveway, threw it in reverse, and sped back down the driveway. You guessed it...the kid had tied the rope to the front bumper! That guy is still picking splinters out of his butt!
omfg why didn't he unplug the battery or something he could have been killed or worse broke his neck
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My friend saved some money tearing off the old shingles himself and taking them to the dump. labour's expensive and the stuff you can do yourself will save you money. Contracters have to pay to dump too. I can dump for free just show them my lieberry card
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A magnet sweep isn't going to pick too many stainless nails. Or brass or copper, for that matter. BTW, this same guy another time was tuning up his dirt bike on the concrete patio right outside his family room. He had it up on a center stand while he was revving it up in gear. It came off the center stand and when the driven rear wheel hit the concrete it launched itself with him on it right through the glass patio doors into the family room! Cut him up pretty bad.
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Your friend sounds like he might have a future starring in AFV film clips. And please explain why a magnet would not pick up stainless STEEL nails?
As a contractor, I'm not sure what your question is, but if this gal plans to keep the house, that whole mess should probably come off of there.
If you go with a metal roof, there would be no need to sheath in the whole thing, maybe just a few wood repairs.
If she is not going to keep the house, assuming there is no significant rot, she could probably get a reputable contractor to install a metal roof over the existing using very long course-thread screws.
I'm not suggesting that is the ideal remedy here, but one that would probably work & satisfy a home inspector.
As a contractor, I'm not sure what your question is, but if this gal plans to keep the house, that whole mess should probably come off of there.
If you go with a metal roof, there would be no need to sheath in the whole thing, maybe just a few wood repairs.
If she is not going to keep the house, assuming there is no significant rot, she could probably get a reputable contractor to install a metal roof over the existing using very long course-thread screws.
I'm not suggesting that is the ideal remedy here, but one that would probably work & satisfy a home inspector.
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The house I live in is about 100 years old and had a cedar shake roof.
The roof has been replaced with plywood and asphault shingels.
2 layers of shingels are all we are allowed to have on the roof.
The roof has been replaced with plywood and asphault shingels.
2 layers of shingels are all we are allowed to have on the roof.
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Originally Posted by Keepin It Real
This thread reminds me of when my friend was replacing some wood shingles on the back side of his house. The roof also had a steep pitch. In fact, he kept sliding so he tied one end of a long rope around his waist, threw the other end over the top of the roof, and told his son to tie it off to something sturdy which the kid did and then left. Well, a few minutes later, his wife who didn't know anything about what was going on, came out the front late for an appointment, jumped in the car which was parked in the driveway, threw it in reverse, and sped back down the driveway. You guessed it...the kid had tied the rope to the front bumper! That guy is still picking splinters out of his butt!
