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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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shortbox availability, dana diff in half ton 2wd??

just got a 68 shortbox fleetside 2wd. Body is rough but the box might be workable. Just curious to know if there are many shortboxes(box only) to be found in the states. They are pretty rare around here but there seem to be more of those trucks with shortboxes down there than here in canada. Just wondering if i should even bother working on this box or if it would be easier to go get a box that is in good shape down there and save on bodywork. One other thing, this truck has a dana(?) diff in it. it is a half ton, just curious is this a rare diff, or valuable? any input on the diff would be handy, i have only ever seen one other truck with the oddball diff, and the guy was on and on about how special that made the truck. Thanks.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Short boxes are not that rare in California. When I was looking for one for mine I found 3 to choose from. They are getting harder to find in good shape though.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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thanks. i see you have some cool rides. i am in the middle of a rotiserie resto on my 67 390 gt coupe mustang. This is quickly teaching me about finding the best parts to bring to the bodyman. my car wasn't worth restoring, should have found a car in better shape. I am seeing that it would be nothing to put over $1000 into this box, over even double that time its painted, might be worth tracking one down instead. I can do the frame all up and then decide i guess thanks for the info.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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I have seen a couple bumpsides with the dana 60 semi-float rear. My brother had a '67 in high school that had one w a limited slip. It is actually a better rear axle than the 9" in the respect that it has less rotational resistance, which means that it takes less HP to spin it. Though service and repair aren't as easy as w the 9". I wish my new to me '68 had the 60 in it.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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thanks for the info. less resistance = faster truck!! any idea what type of limited slip is in there? i would gather it would be a tough diff in general, as most of the dana 60 are in 3/4 tons and one tons. I would probably sell this one, but i am in alberta, canada, quite a ways away from you. Guess i'll see what gears are in it and go from there. Good luck with your new 68. these trucks rock!
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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The LS is the weak link supposedly. I have the full float version under my '69 4x. I managed to break the roll pin that holds the cross bar into the carrier that holds the spiders in place. Cost more for the lousy junk chrome diff cover than for the internal parts to fix it.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Does your truck have a Dana 60? or does it have a Dana 44?

Dana 60 = 9 bolt rear cover

Dana 44 = 10 bolt rear cover

No cover = Ford 9 inch
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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looks like 10 bolts, so i guess its a 44! Axle code is 08 on door tag. Any idea what ratio or if its limited slip? i haven't had time to check with my dealer on that yet. I thought a dana 60 would be serious overkill for such a small truck. interesting to find out more bout such things
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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So which is a "better" axle? Also, are each of them interchangable?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by codyb76
looks like 10 bolts, so i guess its a 44! Axle code is 08 on door tag. Any idea what ratio or if its limited slip? i haven't had time to check with my dealer on that yet. I thought a dana 60 would be serious overkill for such a small truck. interesting to find out more bout such things
Looks like the rear end was changed by a PO. Or the door has been changed and the old VIN tag wasn't re-installed on the replacement door.

08 = Ford 9 inch / 3.50-1 / 3300 lb axle capacity

Now: Dana (Spicer) 44

Source: 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalogue; Warranty or Rating Plate Code Chart; Section 40.1; Pg 13
 

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Dana 44, You sure? Sounds like something Jeep or International would due.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Years ago I bought a 68 F100 shortbed for a parts truck ( wrecked) . It had a 360 with a 3 speed overdrive and a Dana 44 rear.I've never seen another 1/2 ton with a Dana rear since.
 
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Originally Posted by scottfreeman
Dana 44, You sure? Sounds like something Jeep or International would due.
FYI:

Every Ford and Mercury passenger car made from 1949/56 used a Dana-Spicer 44.

Every F1/F100 made from 1948 to 1956 used a Dana-Spicer 44.

Many of the 1957/66 F100 4X4's used a Dana-Spicer 44..front and rear.

1970's/90's F150/250 4X4's used Dana-Spicer 44's in many applications...as front axles

Ford has used other 44's in 100's of other applications front and/or rear from 1967 to today.

Besides Ford, 44's are used today in Jeeps, Nissan Titan and Armada, Infiniti QX56 Front & Rear, and prolly some other applications.
 

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I knew that Ford used them in front applications, I have never seen the rear 44's though. But I have not been around the ones that are older than the '67 enough to look at which rear axle they were running. I just assumed that the 44's were too light for the rear of a real pickup. But I guess I am wrong.

When did the 9" come on the scene? I thought the 50's rigs ran 9er's also.
 
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9 Inch introduced: 1957
 
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