Diesel 1 or diesel 2
#16
Originally Posted by PowerStrokeHD
As far as the additives go, he is right about not needing any if the fuel is anything like (or is) the Amoco/BP Premier Diesel.
I'll vouch for that, we never use additives. Any experimentation with them in the past has only resulted in higher operational costs per mile and driveability issues.
#17
Originally Posted by origcharger
I'll vouch for that, we never use additives. Any experimentation with them in the past has only resulted in higher operational costs per mile and driveability issues.
#18
Because of emissions concerns all on road diesel has had its sulfer reduced to 15 ppm or less. The process of removing the sulfer alledgedly reduces the lubricity of the fuel, there are lubricity standards that the fuel has to meet so the refiners/suppliers alledgedly use an additive to meet those standards.
Lots of aftermarket additive suppliers are looking to score because of lubricity concerns.
So far we have not seen any drop in fuel mileage that can be attributed to the Ultra Low Sulfer fuel.
Lots of aftermarket additive suppliers are looking to score because of lubricity concerns.
So far we have not seen any drop in fuel mileage that can be attributed to the Ultra Low Sulfer fuel.
Last edited by origcharger; 11-05-2007 at 09:16 AM.
#19
this is what I was reading from
Here you go. Was found on another site for what it's worth. I don't know the effect of these items items long term so use at your own risk.
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#20
#21
Originally Posted by origcharger
I'll vouch for that, we never use additives. Any experimentation with them in the past has only resulted in higher operational costs per mile and driveability issues.
#22
#24
Originally Posted by just another truck
Do you believe it was cetane, or the added lube? Or both
Here is information on the old LSD Amoco Premier...
http://www.smithsmarina.com/Amoco_Premier_Diesel_Fuel_LS.pdf
#25
Originally Posted by PowerStrokeHD
The nice part about the high quality premium diesel is it is refined for a higher cetane rating rather than being beefed up with cetane in a bottle.
It simply takes too long.
#26
there is only one fuel now,,ulsd and lsd. there is no kerosene or #2 sold at any gas station anyplace in the usa. ulsd diesel fuel is not mixed with kerosene{winter blend|. those days are gone. you may be able to find lsd at some truck stops, but it is just about gone . most have the ulsd only. all this stiuuff about what is 1 2 3 4 kero etc is a buch of malarky anyway. #2 is still being made. it is what goes into your home heating tank. even all the off road red fuel in my area in ny state is lsd or ulsd with the red dye in it. at the stations,,you will only find lsd and ulsd. sice most dont have the tanks for it , they now have only ulsd.
#27
Here is a link to exxon. Yes we burn #2 fuels only without as much sulfur we use to have. Yes Kero is available. Here in Michigan we have fueling tanks of it available.
http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/GFM..._Fuels_FAQ.asp
http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/GFM..._Fuels_FAQ.asp
#28
Originally Posted by oltrucker
there is only one fuel now,,ulsd and lsd. there is no kerosene or #2 sold at any gas station anyplace in the usa. ulsd diesel fuel is not mixed with kerosene{winter blend|. those days are gone. you may be able to find lsd at some truck stops, but it is just about gone . most have the ulsd only. all this stiuuff about what is 1 2 3 4 kero etc is a buch of malarky anyway. #2 is still being made. it is what goes into your home heating tank. even all the off road red fuel in my area in ny state is lsd or ulsd with the red dye in it. at the stations,,you will only find lsd and ulsd. sice most dont have the tanks for it , they now have only ulsd.
#1 ULSD Dyed or #2 ULSD Dyed.
You can't tell me that diesel used to be vastly different. Only thing that has changed is the additive packs, and the removal of sulfer. You also can't tell me or my Fuel Supplier that #1 and #2 don't exist.
#29
Originally Posted by oltrucker
there is only one fuel now,,ulsd and lsd. there is no kerosene or #2 sold at any gas station anyplace in the usa. ulsd diesel fuel is not mixed with kerosene{winter blend|. those days are gone. you may be able to find lsd at some truck stops, but it is just about gone . most have the ulsd only. all this stiuuff about what is 1 2 3 4 kero etc is a buch of malarky anyway. #2 is still being made. it is what goes into your home heating tank. even all the off road red fuel in my area in ny state is lsd or ulsd with the red dye in it. at the stations,,you will only find lsd and ulsd. sice most dont have the tanks for it , they now have only ulsd.
I just bought 5 gallons of Kerosene at the pump. There is also #1 and #2 still sold here too. I think that you might have some information mixed up...
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