What rear end?
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What rear end?
Took my 70 Galaxie down to the exhaust shop today, since a previous owner put a really hack dual exhaust on it, and took the opportunity to look over the underside. No rust, a minor pinion seal leak, but I have no idea what axle it is. Bolt on rear cover, but too short and wide to be a D44. Is this an 8.8, did they use that axle back then? Or is this some oddball axle?
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From what I remember, the 8.8 didn't start until the early 80's.
Bolt on cover huh? Not sure, I left a message with my uncle who knows just about everything about these cars. If nobody else figures it out, hopefully he'll know.
What code does it have for the rear? Maybe an oddball ratio could help pinpoint it...
Bolt on cover huh? Not sure, I left a message with my uncle who knows just about everything about these cars. If nobody else figures it out, hopefully he'll know.
What code does it have for the rear? Maybe an oddball ratio could help pinpoint it...
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8.7 integral WER axle, introduced in big Ford LTD style passenger cars in 1967. Some of the internal guts are the same as the later 8.8's.
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A '70 Gal should be a 9 inch, with a drop out carrier. No bolts on the back.
This car used a coil and control arm rear suspension, which does not lend itself to swapping in drum to drum diffs like a leaf spring set would. It's possible you have a later 8.8, but those are late '80s items. It's possible you have a GM 10 or 12 bolt. That would be in line with a hack job exhaust...
Don't forget your balance tube....
ON EDIT. Unaware of the WER axle, never seen one that I know of, always saw 9's in these cars.
This car used a coil and control arm rear suspension, which does not lend itself to swapping in drum to drum diffs like a leaf spring set would. It's possible you have a later 8.8, but those are late '80s items. It's possible you have a GM 10 or 12 bolt. That would be in line with a hack job exhaust...
Don't forget your balance tube....
ON EDIT. Unaware of the WER axle, never seen one that I know of, always saw 9's in these cars.
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
A '70 Gal should be a 9 inch, with a drop out carrier. No bolts on the back.
This car used a coil and control arm rear suspension, which does not lend itself to swapping in drum to drum diffs like a leaf spring set would. It's possible you have a later 8.8, but those are late '80s items. It's possible you have a GM 10 or 12 bolt. That would be in line with a hack job exhaust...Don't forget your balance tube....
This car used a coil and control arm rear suspension, which does not lend itself to swapping in drum to drum diffs like a leaf spring set would. It's possible you have a later 8.8, but those are late '80s items. It's possible you have a GM 10 or 12 bolt. That would be in line with a hack job exhaust...Don't forget your balance tube....
Cover Gasket: C7AZ-4036-A
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Originally Posted by tdister
NumberDummy sounds like he got it, I was just coming back to say 8.7" (still just a guess on my part). My source say the started putting them in the big cars in '68.
I worked for Ford as a back counterman (shop counter) from 1962 thru 1997, so I ain't lying to y'all. The axle clips are C7AZ-4N237-A and are the same as the ones used in 8.8's.
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
A '70 Gal should be a 9 inch, with a drop out carrier. No bolts on the back.
This car used a coil and control arm rear suspension, which does not lend itself to swapping in drum to drum diffs like a leaf spring set would. It's possible you have a later 8.8, but those are late '80s items. It's possible you have a GM 10 or 12 bolt. That would be in line with a hack job exhaust...
Don't forget your balance tube....
ON EDIT. Unaware of the WER axle, never seen one that I know of, always saw 9's in these cars.
This car used a coil and control arm rear suspension, which does not lend itself to swapping in drum to drum diffs like a leaf spring set would. It's possible you have a later 8.8, but those are late '80s items. It's possible you have a GM 10 or 12 bolt. That would be in line with a hack job exhaust...
Don't forget your balance tube....
ON EDIT. Unaware of the WER axle, never seen one that I know of, always saw 9's in these cars.
Last edited by NumberDummy; Apr 7, 2007 at 02:58 PM.
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Ok, so not really oddball, but not that common either. It might be worth my time to swap out a Lincoln 8" or 9" with disks then, since it needs rear brakes anyways. I'm still looking to see if I can put front disks on it without spending $1k on a kit.
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Originally Posted by Ford_Six
Ok, so not really oddball, but not that common either. It might be worth my time to swap out a Lincoln 8" or 9" with disks then, since it needs rear brakes anyways. I'm still looking to see if I can put front disks on it without spending $1k on a kit.
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8 inch Lincoln? What 8 inch Lincoln? No such thing. You don't want an 8 inch, cuz the big Fords never used an 8 incher. 8 inch introduced in 1962 for Fairlanes/Meteors with the 260 V8. Standard small block rear axle, used in Falcon/Comet, Mustang/Cougar, Montego/Fairlane/Torino/LTD II (not a LTD), Maverick/Comet, Granada/Monarch (which also used the 8.7), Fairmont/Zephyr, and Pinto/Lynx wagons with the 2.8 V6, and prolly a few more.
btw: The 77/79 Versailles, a cousin to the Granada/Monarch used a 9 inch rear end with rear discs. Dispite the hoopla of the time, the Versailles was never much of a seller, but today many ppl want one for that rear end/disc brake setup.
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I've got 2 68 Galaxies the one with the 302 has the WER rear the one with the 390 has the 9 inch. My 76 LTD with the 400 engine has the 9 inch. Six, you can put disc brakes on your 70 by using components of a similar model with discs. I'm not sure of the year but I think you can go up to 78.
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Originally Posted by GLR
I've got 2 68 Galaxies the one with the 302 has the WER rear the one with the 390 has the 9 inch. My 76 LTD with the 400 engine has the 9 inch. Six, you can put disc brakes on your 70 by using components of a similar model with discs. I'm not sure of the year but I think you can go up to 78.
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An 8.8 rear axle is not the same as an 8.7 axle. It's similar in appearance, but most of the internal parts are different. While the 8.7 was used 1967/79 (on cars only), the 8.8's weren't introduced till the 1980's.