Does anyone possibly know the part# for the bellhousing that will fit a 272/292 to a standard 3spd transmission? I need to find one of these bellhousings so that I can replace my HD 3 spd with a standard 3spd w/overdrive. The HD and standard 3spds have different bolt patterns. I've had the replacement transmission for some time now and I'm looking to make it my next project on my truck. Thanks to anyone who can help.

 

B8C-7505-A .. Bell Housing~Use with 3 Speed Light & Medium Duty & Overdrive Transmissions (Not the H/D).

Fits: 1954/64 F1/F100/250

 

Thanks alot numberdummy!
Mike

 

Mike,
The part number Bill posted will work, however, It is incorrect for a concorse restoration. The number listed includes the new version style trucks that used a hydraulic slave for the clutch. When this style is used there are two visible unused threaded holes on the drivers side of the bellhousing. The 56 original bell (B6C) does not have this provision as it does not use a slave cylinder for the clutch.

Other than what I've listed they are the same and both will work in your application. PM me as I have both and I can supply pics if you desire.

Kevin Bigwin

 

Page 437, 1948/56 Ford Truck Parts Catalog, the only number listed is the one I posted. I also checked the 1957/63 and 1964/72 books to see how late the number fit.

As someone who has done more than a few concourse restorations, and was a judge for the Classic Car Club of America for many years, I am well aware of what is correct and what isn't. Changing a transmission that won't match the original Rating (VIN) Plate does not fall under the auspices of a concourse restoration.

 

Bill,
I stand corrected on the concourse standards, but the page 437 in the 48-56 book is a 1964 issue book. It only lists what works, the 56 parts book lists what "originally" came with the truck as it was printed in 56 so it uses the 56 part number for the bell without the two additional holes.

Its really no big deal to me what anyone else uses, but when I do a 56 I put the bell with out the holes in it as to me it sticks out like a sore thumb!

I grew up around corvettes (A 1958 and 1962 to be exact) so there are some things (especially things that can be seen) that matter.

I will say that you provide a service to this fourm and by no means am I trying to do anything to mar your reputation as you are "top notch"

Kevin Bigwin

 

Okay, so either the B6C or B8C will fit my application, though the B6C was the part originally built on the '56s? Thanks to both of you for all of the information. You are both obviously far more knowledgeable in this area than I am and I really appreciate the help. I understand that I will need to use a shortened driveshaft to switch to the standard 3spd as it is an OD transmission. Other than the driveshaft and bellhousing what else will be different between the HD and standard 3spd (i.e. pilot bearing, throwout bearing, flywheel, etc.) I also know the shift rods will be different due to the fact that the HD linkages come off the top of the transmission. Thanks for all the help. I've really been trying to learn as much as possible about every aspect of my truck as I tackle each task.

Mike

 

Not to make a mountain of of a molehill, but here's what I do before I post any numbers from the 1948/56 parts catalog (or the other books through 1972). I check the Ford update books to see if the number was updated. So, if I had the '56 book, I would have verified that the B6C number was still valid.


The OP asked for a part number, so if I had only posted the B6C number, what are his options? He has to find one from 1956 only, not an easy task today. But the B8C number, which Ford replaced the B6C number with, not only fits 1956, but 1957-64 as well. That gives the OP more options on what to look for.


While the early books give better refs as to what the original part numbers are, they are useless when it comes to some mechanical parts. Ford not only updated the numbers in the 1948/56 catalog, but also changed some basic numbers as well. See how many auto parts stores can translate basic Ford part number 7039. Most can't. 7039 was the former basic number for a U-joint. Ford then changed that number in the later book to 4635, a number still in use today. Not only did Ford change driveline basic numbers, but front and rear suspension and transmission basic numbers as well.



Concourse Restoration. Did the 1958 Corvette originally have the **** on the seal beam head light bulbs so the headlamp adjusting machines could be attached? Nope. Take off 4 points, one for each bulb, if the Corvette has those newer parts. First car with dual headlamps: 1957 Nash.

 

could someone here answer the following:
does this part have the rear engine mount (2-ears)?
ref: B8C-7505-A (old B6C-7505-A)

A picture would be nice...(if possible).

Would this be the same part for a '55 F100?
Would it fit the six cylinder as well as the y-block?

FYI: I have a '55 Ford F100 w/ a 223 6 cyl...

As a possible project...I'm considering dropping in a late model modular 4.6liter SOHC engine.
I had some hope of keeping the original Bell housing and the T85 3-speed w/ OD. This tranny uses the "tall and narrow" bolt pattern. Alternate Bell housing choices are limited...most are the Ford Pattern (short & wide). Larger Ford trucks (F250 and heavier) appear to use a bell housing with different rear engine mounting Ears. They also tend to have different bolt patterns....not the same as T85, but the short & wide Ford Pattern.

I might need to consider later bell housings from the lighter vs. the heavier trucks if one could verify that the alternate bell housing offered the older Tall & Narrow bolt pattern. This option also appeared on some transmissions and was sometimes referred as the "BUTTERFLY" pattern. A list of Ford Bell housing having the "BUTTERFLY" pattern that also had the rear engine mounting ears would be a dream come true.

Anybody have a part number for such an item?

Sincerely,

Ron
orange county, CA

 

The B8C bellhousing has the two ears for the rear mounts. The same setup was used thru 1964.

Want pics and a gazillion Ford part numbers? Want to know what fits what?

I'm 20 minutes (more of less) north of you (depends on traffic on Beach Blvd/Hacienda Rd), have more Ford parts catalogs than all FTE members COMBINED.

Swing on by and take a look-see.

There are a coupla Ford repro parts sellers in your area (Anaheim & Orange), but...AFAIK, none have any Ford Truck Parts Catalogs.

 

I need to email or PM you for your home phone and address. I'm not seeing the links on this webpage posting(s) allowing that feature. I've already sent a request adding you to my buddy list....Perhaps a bit later when your not so busy. I see you're on-line.

Ron

 

I need to email or PM you for your home phone and address. I'm not seeing the links on this webpage posting(s) allowing that feature. I've already sent a request adding you to my buddy list....Perhaps a bit later when your not so busy. I see you're on-line.

Ron

 

's need 25 posts before they can access some FTE features. After this occurres, click on the FTE members user name.

I just sent you an email, cuz I have more than 25 posts.

 

I replied to the email...with my contact info

 

Pictures as requested, Sir. The clean bell housing is from an original 1956 F-350, 272 CID with T98 four speed, casting #TBAB7505A..
The dirty bell housing is from a 1956 F100 with 272 and three speed, casting #TAAB7505A.
HTH.