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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Thats a liter. As in 1.22 per LITER.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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So that would be around $4.61 USD per gallon for gasoline and $4.69 USD per gallon of diesel. I am surprised that they are that close.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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dont be suprised about nothing man, I recently stopped workin in the oilfield. One thing i'll tell you is that whenever prices go lower, they just stop pumping. they make their own "demand".
 
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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I don't think they would make enough power for the EXPY (too heavy) but great power plant for the Sport Trac, Explorer, Ranger, hmmmmm Ford 500 maybe?

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Here's the specs"
The 2.5L Engine gets 28.7 mpg
The 3.0L Engine gets 26 mpg

Wouldn't these engines be great in the Ford Explorer and the Expedition?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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I don't think they would make enough power for the EXPY (too heavy) but great power plant for the Sport Trac, Explorer, Ranger, hmmmmm Ford 500 maybe?
This is a bit off topic, but take a look at this article. It's interesting to see how many miles you can squeeze out of a diesel engine.
Toyota Ireland - D-4D Clean Power
 
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Everyone has HP ratings buzzing in their heads nowadays. Look at the old 70 passenger school buses and other large vehicles powered by 6.9idi, 7.3idi, cummins5.9, all had 150-180 hp and they got the job done.

Ford should build a reliable, easy to service engine, that gets good fuel mileage and decent power, but leave the 300+ hp tunes for enthusiasts.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
Everyone has HP ratings buzzing in their heads nowadays. Look at the old 70 passenger school buses and other large vehicles powered by 6.9idi, 7.3idi, cummins5.9, all had 150-180 hp and they got the job done.

Ford should build a reliable, easy to service engine, that gets good fuel mileage and decent power, but leave the 300+ hp tunes for enthusiasts.
I could not agree more BUT they will not do that HP sells now days. If the people at ford that are going to design these engines had a job that they needed a truck for but did not make the money they make now I would have to say the the MPG's would be more of a concern.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Everyone has HP ratings buzzing in their heads nowadays. Look at the old 70 passenger school buses and other large vehicles powered by 6.9idi, 7.3idi, cummins5.9, all had 150-180 hp and they got the job done.

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Excuse me but our first diesel was a 1985 International 6.9idi with a 59 passenger bus body. It had something like 165 hp and about 320 ft lbs of torque. With a 6.50 to 1 axle you had it reving like a gas engine to go anywhere. It was marginal on power empty, pathetic fully loaded and stay away from the hills. Fuel mileage was an improvement over gas but not that impressive. It never got more than 500 miles without using a quart of oil and consumption got bad enough that IH rerung it just before it went out of warranty around 50,000 miles. It dropped a valve at 100,000 miles and split a cylinder wall. Put a reman engine in it and it had a roller cam follower disintegrate at 50,000 miles. Last I saw the bus it was on its way to salvage yard.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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the 6.7 cummins is actually 350 H.P and 650 torque
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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The problem with all these new engines is they are trying to squeeze too much MPG and HorsePower out of the same engine, the also choking it down with emissions garbage on top of that.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Why is Ford hell bent on putting a diesel in the F150 no one wants to buy a diesel now cause of the price, As was said in an earlier post the cost difference in fuel out weighs the mpg increase not to mention the cost for oil changes. I dont want to start anything but I think all this sudden rise in fuel prices the last few years is a ploy by are Almighty Government, to one make money, and to force the going green thing down all our throats. I hate to say it but this whole fuel crisis started on 9/11/01 the price shot up I think 20 or 30 cents cause every one was scared and rushed to the pumps and stores just seems to snow ball from there involving other Global Conflicts. Just makes you wander huh? "It's big s@*t sandwich and we're all gonna take a bite"
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Why is Ford hell bent on putting a diesel in the F150 no one wants to buy a diesel now cause of the price, As was said in an earlier post the cost difference in fuel out weighs the mpg increase not to mention the cost for oil changes.
Do you really know how much oil changes will cost on a diesel F150?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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No I dont but diesels usually take about twice the amount of oil a gas engine does. My fathers 6.0 stroke takes about 4 gallons of oil so maybe the 4.4 maybe 2.5 to 3 gal maybe.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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No I dont but diesels usually take about twice the amount of oil a gas engine does. My fathers 6.0 stroke takes about 4 gallons of oil so maybe the 4.4 maybe 2.5 to 3 gal maybe.

Our 6.2 GM diesel took 7 quarts.
 
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Originally Posted by parkland
Everyone has HP ratings buzzing in their heads nowadays. Look at the old 70 passenger school buses and other large vehicles powered by 6.9idi, 7.3idi, cummins5.9, all had 150-180 hp and they got the job done.

Ford should build a reliable, easy to service engine, that gets good fuel mileage and decent power, but leave the 300+ hp tunes for enthusiasts.
I also couldn't agree more. I would be nice if Ford built an I-6 that was easy to work on & reliable. I dislike the navstars all of them. The 6.9 early 7.3 weren't too bad.
 
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