Chips/Tuners/Problems
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Chips/Tuners/Problems
Ok guys, I just read several posts about tuners and programmers, including a heated exchange of knowledge between opinions. My question is not which tuner to buy or "IF" the warranty will cover damages resulting from power increasing mods, but the likelihood of such problems arising. If the dealer chooses to deny warranty to a specific occurance, they probably can (after all FORD's lawyers have more experience than mine). But, if I want to put an exhaust, mild programer and other subtle modifications on my truck, what is the real world probability that I will ever run into a warranty questionable problem? I have a 2004 F-250 4wd PSD 6.0 and understand that the torqushift tranny is likely to fail before 100k mi. what other situations should I look to find myself in? All I really want is to make my truck my own for individuality sake and not worry about legal battles or be out thousands on repair.
thank you,
josh
thank you,
josh
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You can't protect people from themselves. I have the Edge Evolution on my 05 5.4l 3v F-150. I'm not going to run level 3 or do any off the wall custom tunes. I use the guage function and level 2 tuning. I do not have a 5500 lb race car,it's a truck. Some users seem to feel that any modification is ok,Ford will fix it if I break it. Common sense be damned.
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From: SE Texas
Originally Posted by josh04hdf250
and not worry about legal battles or be out thousands on repair.
thank you,
josh
thank you,
josh
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I see arguments for and against these special tuners however, My local Ford Dealer in Minnesota sells and installs Bullydog and Edge tuners. Considering that, who's problem does it become then?
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Originally Posted by APG
I see arguments for and against these special tuners however, My local Ford Dealer in Minnesota sells and installs Bullydog and Edge tuners. Considering that, who's problem does it become then?
JL
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Originally Posted by APG
I see arguments for and against these special tuners however, My local Ford Dealer in Minnesota sells and installs Bullydog and Edge tuners. Considering that, who's problem does it become then?
I have been selling performance parts for the last 10 years, canned tunes create few problems that were not there to begin with. So rather than looking at it as a problem waiting to happen, look at it as a sign to upgrade. If the trans takes a dump at 75k, your most likely out of warranty any way and should get one capable of handling the power you are/want to produce.
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Originally Posted by josh04hdf250
Ok guys, I just read several posts about tuners and programmers, including a heated exchange of knowledge between opinions. My question is not which tuner to buy or "IF" the warranty will cover damages resulting from power increasing mods, but the likelihood of such problems arising. If the dealer chooses to deny warranty to a specific occurance, they probably can (after all FORD's lawyers have more experience than mine). But, if I want to put an exhaust, mild programer and other subtle modifications on my truck, what is the real world probability that I will ever run into a warranty questionable problem? I have a 2004 F-250 4wd PSD 6.0 and understand that the torqushift tranny is likely to fail before 100k mi. what other situations should I look to find myself in? All I really want is to make my truck my own for individuality sake and not worry about legal battles or be out thousands on repair.
thank you,
josh
thank you,
josh
It would be best to get a Handheld tuner and reflash the computer back to stock when taking it to the dealer. By having a handheld tuner you won't have any *****, buttons or displays on the dash to arouse suspition that the computer has been modified. Also don't plaster stickers on the truck advertising what tuner and mods you have.
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Originally Posted by dkf
the computer has been modified.
MODIFIED
No manufacturer has an obligation to repair a single thing on a vehicle that has been MODIFIED.
JL
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I did find a Venom 400 on Summitracing.com but am not familiar with it. And got very confused going to http://www.autodirectsave.com/product/list/1993/Ford/F150/Performance_Parts/Performance_Chips
as there were several products that all claim to help with HP.
Has anyone out there used any of these products? I'm not looking to built a rocket sled. I have 170K on this engine and it just seems tired. I've replaced the plugs and wires, new distrib, K&N filter but was looking for a little more pep out of it while I save for a new (remanufactured) engine.
as there were several products that all claim to help with HP.
Has anyone out there used any of these products? I'm not looking to built a rocket sled. I have 170K on this engine and it just seems tired. I've replaced the plugs and wires, new distrib, K&N filter but was looking for a little more pep out of it while I save for a new (remanufactured) engine.
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