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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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I have a picture of a 430 Mercury Marauder, but cant post attachments. It was one cool motor. 3 deuces, 300 cfm per carb, 400 hp.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Thanks You rock settin up the new thread Is a great Idea since I kinda Hijacked someone elses thread for wich I appologize.
So we are pretty sure at this point that I have an MEL engine wich is good and bad, Good (LOTS OF POWER) BAD (no I have to find another Bell housing I think )
This should if I read everything correctly provide plenty of power for my huge lumbering N700 , That in itself being a great thing as if I could not find as motor it was scheduled to be a test truck for an elctric hybrid conversion I've been working on with not too much success (implying that it probably would have set for another six years)

Thanks to you guys I know what I have and the MEL forum link looks like it will be a great help will post other things as well if I find any questions I can answer Etc.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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No appologies required kbart.
Wasnt the ebay motor listed as an industrial motor? To me, that means its intended application was for something like powering a waterpump as opposed to vehicle. If that is the case, the compression, the valves, and/or cam may be suitable for hi torque low rpm (like 3000 or less) usage, which would result in less cfm requirement from the carb. Like 600 cfm instead of 650 or 750.

Also the ad said the power plant was factory rebuilt and never installed. I had the impression it was rebuilt by Ford. Wouldnt that place its latest rebuild date around 1970? Again if this is the case and the motor has sat for 37 years, I would take it down to examine for corrosion, lubricate, apply assembly lube where indicated, etc.
 

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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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you are in a few things very correct on your assumptions there I just finished talking with my Father who did the bidding for me on ebay. Who in turn got off the phone with the owner, This engine was purchased for the Montana highway department as a ford factory complete drop in replacement for one of thier trucks and never used it is I think industrial in nature however I do not know what differences it may have from it's comonly avaliable couterparts.

Absoluteley I will be dropping the pan and a few other things when i get home to check for rust and all of the usual effects of sitting for an extraordinary period of time however i have know idea when this motor was actually purchased. has been stored inside for quite some time I do know that the owner also said that the carb is a holley 4bbl wich any of us could probably tell from the picture , however he did not state the model or CFM, he did mention as well that he thought the carb may need rebuilt after sitting for "so long as he put it" so I will doubtless have a bit of work ahead of me however this should prove out hopefully to be a great re-power for my truck.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Kbart71,
That is a 332 Lincoln Y-block in your truck, not a 292. (check your VIN - fourth digit should be "W") The dead give away is the little "bridge" between the arcs of the rams horn manifolds. They tried the same thing your going to try about 30 years ago on the farm here. Took out the 332 from a T750, and put in an MEL (Edsel 410). Unfortunately, they didn't realize that any Ford 330, 361, or 391 medium truck (500-800) bellhousing would bolt right up to the MEL, so they made their own bellhousing, which never worked right (was always trashing rear seals and clutches). I ultimately pulled out the Edsel, but the truck has never been put back in service. Apparently nobody was ever happy with a 332 in a class 7 or larger truck, just not enough power. That's why Ford came out with the Super Duties, I expect.
Anyway I still have the front mount they made for the 410MEL. You're welcome to it. They did a decent job on that end. You'll need an FT bellhousing (330, 361, 391). The trouble you're going to have is that a 430 crankshaft may not accept a pilot bushing for a std. tranny shaft. They only came in automatic equiped Lincolns and T-birds. The earlier MELs still had the pilot bearings but later ones didn't. The MEL forum mention above could help you.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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If your refering to the photo in my album that is the new engine I just purchased
the one in the truck now I have no pictures of but has the curlover fron wrap exhaust manifolds and as far as the vin goes I don't have the truck here to give it to ya but I think when I looked it up after purchasing the truck it definately came out to a 292 or 312 I will definately need an FT bell housing and clutch presure plate flywheel combo for this I think , The motor in the pictures was ordered by the montana highway department (god knows how long ago ) I am asumming that they ordered it for a truck . Could be wrong though
 
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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thats a cool engine but is it a 332 lincoln or a 430mel. and i thought about sending you a pm about your 292 but it sounds like you cant do pm at the moment so any way. i am very interested in you 292. i have a dream of building a 292 for all its worth and droping it in a gasser or something. good luck with the swap.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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no problem on the pm thing , I'm pretty sure the picture is a 430MEL however i will not really know until May some time when I get home from iraq, hope you read the disclaimer on the 292 i'm not sure it can be saved but then again i'm not sure that i'm not just a complete idiot and knocked it out of wack somehow and it's still perfectly good..

e-mail me with your address etc and when i get closer to knowing if the 292 is going I'll get with you
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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Maybe I'm the one thats confused

I'm having the casting numbers pulled now to compare and harden what this realy is but i have done some further research and I believe you are right the photos of the MEL engines i've seen all have front distributors however the licoln y blocks loook just like what i have you could very well be right that this is a 332 lincoln Y in wich case i am thinking that my bellhousing and stuff should work ???
but it's not going to be the power giant i was hoping for
never the less as long as it runs ten time better than what i have i'll be a very happy man,.

could use some clarification on the bellhousing compatability and of course clutch pressure plate flywheel etc,

thanks for all of your help guys,
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Talking mel's

The engine in your pics is a lincoln based Y looks to be either a 302 or
332 truck engine. The carb shown is a Holley govener style 4150 . As far
as plug wires go order a set for a 57 chevy with a 283 they are a good fit
and still available from NAPA. The bell and flywheel will have to be from a
truck that had a lincoln Y. The engine in the pics shows a front mount
installed for a truck.

Have A Good Day---- Hotwrench
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Oh shoot

It IS! I'll find a hole.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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a hole ???????
I'm confused 46 what hole
thanks for the info I'm thinking I may have the bell housing and I was just informed that the flywheel should be attached along with starter allready so that knocks down my required parts quite a bit .

So what I gather is that my 292 bell housing will not work and i have to find another is that portion of my demented thinking correct ?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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wait a second just got that last post Joke grenade .......
good one 46y I'll get a shovel if we need it.

tell me this thing if it's in good shape should at least be better than a 292 that runs like @#$%
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Hey 46 can you e-mail me a picture of the 46 marauder 430 ????????
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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so hotwrench what do you know about the 332 series engines will it bolt to a 292 bell housing or do i still need a special bell housing, the pictures I have seen look like a 351 m or a 292 housing to me, of course then again i mounted a 400m to a 390 bell housing once and i'm not sure if your supposed to do that either.
could just be the fog of sleep passing over me though...
 
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