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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Cant Balance Tires

I bought some used tires swampers tsl bias 35's 35.15.50.16.5's..They have alot of tread on them.I had them balanced with wheel weights one on each tire..THEY STILL SHAKE MY steering wheel really bad on the street.it seems they shake my steering wheel at 35mph and at about 65 mph.I was told since i bought them used there cupped and would need to be shaved down to balance them right.I never did this and dont know how to.what tool do i use and is it worth doing this?I was thinking of trying the sand in the tires but that never worked for be before the tired always would wobble even with it in the tires.and none of the tire stores here can balance tires fatter than 12.50s for some reason..grrrrrr
 

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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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tire that has been cupped will give you a real problem. You will not be able to shave the tires yourself. Shaving is like putting you tire on a giant lathe, and I am confident that you do not have this equipment in your garage.
I had a set that was kinda bad like this, lots of material missing because of sharp rocks. I did a smokey a$$ burnout and cleaned them up, but the leading edges were rounded off, so the tires were pretty much ruined. If you can't find a shop that cant balance a tire bigger than 12.5 inches wide, then you are probably not gonna find a shop that can turn them down. Maybe try a Big truck shop that does re-treads, or grooving?????
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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when i bought my 150 it had a set of 305s on it that vibrated like crazy around 70 mph...

i had them balanced and RE-balanced a couple of times - and theyre still shady (with so many weights on em it looks like jewelry!!)...so - i just keep 'em for spares - and nothing else.

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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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had the same problem with a set of 38 thornbirds, big mistake but only cost me 100 dollars and they were almost new but came off of a wreck truck. After i finally found a place to balance them for around 75 dollars, i just ended up trading them for a set of 35/13.50 iroks
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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With a lot of tread left, when buying used off road tires, you always have to question why they are being sold and spend the $ knowing they are probably defective or trashed.

It might be because they have broken belts, which is common in tires aired down and then driven afterwards at highway speeds without airing up.

Or from a jump or impact off road.

Interco tires are not known for being well balanced.

> I had them balanced with wheel weights one on each tire

Kind of surprising with that tire. I would have expected multiple weights on both sides of the rim.

I would use BBs or ceramic beads to balance them before I junked them or had them balanced again with lead.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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if i were you i would just sell them.im sure they guy you bought htem from knew about the balance problem and didnt say anything.anyway if someones going to use them for just off road then there fine.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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some guys i know balance there own tires im not sure how they do it though and they use weights stick ons.I think they use a level but not really sure.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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You can buy a $40 bubble balancer.
You put the tire on the balancer, and where ever the bubble goes put a weights on exactally the oposite side until the bubble is in the center. This way is very easy to mess up, and isn't half as good as a spin balance machine, but better than nothing.
People also use BBs or equal, or somthing similar inside the tire to balance them. That usually works good.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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I have a set of 36 12.50s TSL's that had a viberation in them and I had them balanced with equal. Ill never use weights to balance an offroad tire again. Im verry happy with the equal.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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15.50 bias will always shake and any tire shop can balance them they just dont want to because bias ply tires always shake and for them to make money theyd have to charge u a couple hundred bucks. If its a daily driver put radials on if just a weekend mud tell the tire shop to spin them once tak weight on and call it good!!!!! By the way Im a manager in a tire shop and would blow you off too if you asked me to balance that and get rid of all the shake.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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I would go with sand bags any big tire like semi tires thats how they balance them thats how I balance my 39.5 boggers. You can get them at tire shops. Only bad part you have to dismount.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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I wouldnt use BB's. They will rust together in a big clump in a matter of time. There are special ceramic and plastic pellets that are made for tires.

Check out this link for a good read...
http://toyota.off-road.com/toyota/ar....jsp?id=186499
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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I would like to know how the bb's are going to rust together into a clump? even if the did get temporarily stuck together, the first time the tires move the clump is going to drop and break apart.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Granted I only run 12.00 x 16.5 on the street I made a over size motorcycle balancer with flanged bearings, hard chromed shaft and a spare disc brake to bolt wheels up on, 3/4 ton 8 hole.

First mount and check for true running, if not relocate tire on rim then recheck.
If a steel rim with cone centering applied on the sheared metal lip this isn't a even lip around the center, with the adjustable spider the linkage is sloppy making the wheel not concentric to the balancer spindle. Balance off the bolt pattern like off a spare hub.
Balance with half the weight on the inside bead half outside.
Mount on truck front hub and spin with the shoe, old farts should remember them.
Mark center of weights on both beads, you will have to change the 50/50 starting ratio to zero out the axial imbalance.
This takes some time but I haven't had to spend money on some animal doing a half azz balance job even when I carry in my mounted tires. No impact gun on my vehicles.
Remounted used tires will wear round again and go out of balance with mileage, static balance again then split the correction weights 50/50.
As posted above don't leave out case injuries and delamination problems.
This is how I maintain my wheel balancing. JMO's
 

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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i have a set of brand new 38" tsl swampers with equal in them. was told theyre balanced perfectly, but at about 70mph, my whole truck shakes. it doesnt come through the steering wheel at all, but the whole entire truck shakes. it usually doesnt bother me, becuase i dont drive on highways at 70 too much, but im thinking about getting them rebalanced when i get the cash.
 
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