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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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2000 "X" run on E85

Is there a performance chip that will let my 2000 V-10 run on E85 ethanol.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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I think there are other problems with running E85. Im not sure but i think all the internal orings and other components have problems with E85. Like i think its chemical stuff that a chip wouldn't fix. Not sure though.


If it works, i'd definitely do it though

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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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You need the fuel system to run E85. It will eat your rubber components. Vehicles designed to run on E85 have synthetic rubber products like neaprene (sp). Besides why would you want to run E85? Sure its a little cheaper but you get worse MPG.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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You need the fuel system to run E85. It will eat your rubber components. Vehicles designed to run on E85 have synthetic rubber products like neaprene (sp). Besides why would you want to run E85? Sure its a little cheaper but you get worse MPG.
Its anywhere from 105-108 octane so it has some benefits. Mainly for the forced induction crowd. But an excursion will deffinatly see no performance gains from this.

Also the other posters are correct, the fuel system was not designed for it and it will destroy o-rings and some rubber lines. Deffinatlt DO NOT use it in an excursion!
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Its anywhere from 105-108 octane so it has some benefits. Mainly for the forced induction crowd. But an excursion will deffinatly see no performance gains from this.
Yes its like running 93 in your truck the engine/computer dont know it can advance the timing, so its just a waste.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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E-85 can cut your fuel economy in half. Just E-10 cuts my economy by 20% in my Jeep... enough said...
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Yes its like running 93 in your truck the engine/computer dont know it can advance the timing, so its just a waste.
Running 93 octane in a vehicle designed for 87 can cause problems. Its purely a disadvantage.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Unless you have a ferrari or porshe engine inyour x don't bother with any other fuel other then 87 regular unleaded. Use the cheapest you can find. I don't worry about since I have a diesel engine.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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The gov. for the great state of Louisiana has seen fit to determine what fuel can be burned in all cars,, therefore in a few years all fuel will be E85. SO my recommendation when driving through is to fill up just prior to the state and try to make it all the way through prior to gassing up again. Hopefully I can move before it is fully implemented. Jim
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SPL Tech
Running 93 octane in a vehicle designed for 87 can cause problems. Its purely a disadvantage.
this is true due to the duration of the burn. It can also leave deposits im told, but i havnt seen that firsthand yet, still just heresay in my opinion. It can actually very minimally hurt performance. Nothing youll notice without sophisticated test equipment though.

Bottom line, keep using a quality brand 87 octane fuel.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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actually, Ive heard that you can run 87 octane in just about any modern car you want, even high-performance, high-compression engines. Apparently, most modern cars have knock sensors that will retard the timing if the engine starts to knock... So even if you put 87 in a car with a sticker that says premium only, it'll still be ok, just the car will have slightly retarted performance.
I wouldn't try that in an older car though, because it might not have a knock sensor lol = bad news haha

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by afreemanmd
actually, Ive heard that you can run 87 octane in just about any modern car you want, even high-performance, high-compression engines. Apparently, most modern cars have knock sensors that will retard the timing if the engine starts to knock... So even if you put 87 in a car with a sticker that says premium only, it'll still be ok, just the car will have slightly retarted performance.
I wouldn't try that in an older car though, because it might not have a knock sensor lol = bad news haha

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This is correct,, however my Mercedes states when using less than 91 octane limit throttle movement to 1/2 throttle and reduce load to 1/2 of stated capacity. Run tank at lowest possible and add 91+ octane as soon as possible. My corvette also states less than 91 octane can be used but avoid heavy loads and don't use full throttle. Performance will be significantly reduced. Both state to operate for extended periods and heavy loads could cause engine damage. (ok so not exact quotes but content is correct)

SO you can run 87 octane in cars built for 91+ octane but I would NOT unless 91+ was not available and I was stuck as in Katrina when some fuels were not available. Jim
 
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The gov. for the great state of Louisiana has seen fit to determine what fuel can be burned in all cars,, therefore in a few years all fuel will be E85.
I'd love to see documentation to back up that statement.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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hey guys for the most part you woul have too modify some components too burn e85 from what I read. however it looks as though the engine would only need fuel mixture ratio tuning to get the correct burn ratio. E85 is a cleaner fuel.(alcohol). it burns leaner and can cause an engine too overheat the cylinder if mixture is incorrect. but would definately improve performance in the engine if tuned for it. I not sure what fuel economy woul be. there was some talk of companys offering conversion for older engines. no light shed on it lately. however the biggest advantage to e85 is. PUT MONEY BACK IN POCKETS OF AMARICAN PEOPLE. THIS WOULD BE BIG SUPPORT FOR CORN FARMERS. THAT HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING FOR LONG TIME.AMERICAN REFINERIES TOO MAKE THE FUEL. NO IMPORTS. FROM THE GROUND IT GROWS BACK INTHE TANK OF THE TRUCK THAT HAULED THE SEED. THATS MY TAKE.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by vettdvr
The gov. for the great state of Louisiana has seen fit to determine what fuel can be burned in all cars,, therefore in a few years all fuel will be E85.

If so 95% of people in that state will have destroyed vehicles. Most vehicles cant run on that garbage. I wonder how his reelection will go when he is the source of $1 billion in automobile looses by forcing people to use fuel that damages their vehicle...

 
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