engine and trans
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From: Roseville US
engine and trans
I am considering selling the engine (5.8l) and trans (A4OL) in my 93 Bronco. How much is it worth? I would sell the whole package computers and all. I will be replacing them with a 460/C-6 trans combo. I went to my local FORD reycyler and found a C-6 that will bolt up to a 460 and the stock transfer case. It should all work.
Thanks for any advise
Thanks for any advise
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From: Clearwater USA
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Let give you one little word of caution. You need to think about the whole drive train when you do this swap not just the engine and tranny. I saw somewhere on this site where someone had done a 460 swap and left the original rear-end in (maybe someone else can find this post or knows who posted it). He drove it around the block the first time and everything went fine until he pull back into his driveway and decided to give it a little gas and then boom!!!! he tore the entire pinion gear and yoke right off the axle (picture was awful to look at). Not good, look at some of the other posts back aways it was either under engine swap or rear end sorry I don't remember any more. Hope this helps just wanted you to know about problems someone else had with this swap, I to want to put a 460 in my Bronco also just don't have the bucks right now Good Luck, 
Rick
86 302 EFI, bored 60 over, AOD,
Headman Headers, Flowmaster 40 series,
2 inch dual exhaust, MSD ignition
Rick
86 302 EFI, bored 60 over, AOD,
Headman Headers, Flowmaster 40 series,
2 inch dual exhaust, MSD ignition
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Call around to boneyards and see how much they want for your engine/trans/wiring package. That'll give you a better idea of what it's worth as a package. The 351 should have some value, but I doubt that the harness will bring much.
I've had 429/460s in my '82 Bronco for 16 years and, at 170,000 miles, am still running the original 9" rearend. I replaced the u-joints at 150k, which really didn't even need replacement. And I've used it extremely hard. Sounds like misalignment or bad pinion angles on the driveshaft to explode like the prior post explained.
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I've had 429/460s in my '82 Bronco for 16 years and, at 170,000 miles, am still running the original 9" rearend. I replaced the u-joints at 150k, which really didn't even need replacement. And I've used it extremely hard. Sounds like misalignment or bad pinion angles on the driveshaft to explode like the prior post explained.
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http://www.geocities.com/marsha89129/
(geocities has announced that do to maintenance none of their sites will be available until sometime Sunday morning)
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What changes will be needed will also depend on if you go with an earlier 460-4V,or the mid '87-later EFI460.Your stock EFI fuel pump has too much pressure for a carbed engine.An EFI460 will require the computer&related components from the donor vehicle you get it from.The 460-4V will get less mpg(like that really matters when you're going to 460cid....)than a EFI460,and most likely,you'll meet emission standards better with a EFI460.If you decide to go with a 460-4V,I'd suggest not to put too big of a cam in it.....remember your Bronco has to meet the emissions requirements of a '93 EFI5.8L engine(at least that is how engine swap emission laws were explained to me.).I recently got a price quote for a EFI460&E4OD trans swap into my 1990 Bronco.The complete job would be $4,000-I'd have to provide the engine&trans. I'm still considering letting them do the job,but I also know of a guy closer to my area,that does custom engine swaps and the like,that has strong ties with FoMoCo,so I'll also be talking to him,to see what kind of price he'll give me for this swap.
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From: Nevada
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Federal emmision legislation, adopted by all states/counties who participate in the highway fuel tax political pork barrel, states that the engine must have been available in the vehicle as original equipment and conform to those emission standards. The 429/460 was never an option in the Bronco or F150s.
Most states/counties with emission compliance requirements have gone to database system access with the DMV, where the test machine goes into DMV files with your VIN to verify your registration before testing even begins. Then the test data is transmitted directly to your registration file. Several states have taken it one step farther, where your registration process and payment takes place with the emissions testing. The enviro ***** are very particular about compliance and use the clout of that highway tax money to whip states into line.
If you have to deal with big brother, good luck.
Most states/counties with emission compliance requirements have gone to database system access with the DMV, where the test machine goes into DMV files with your VIN to verify your registration before testing even begins. Then the test data is transmitted directly to your registration file. Several states have taken it one step farther, where your registration process and payment takes place with the emissions testing. The enviro ***** are very particular about compliance and use the clout of that highway tax money to whip states into line.
If you have to deal with big brother, good luck.
