Got Power Steering Now
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Got Power Steering Now
Ok, So I have power steering on my truck now, but I have a few questions. I have heard so much different stuff about what you need to put power steering on our trucks. Some people say you need different steering column, some people say you need a rag joint, etc. I am wondering if I am going to run into any trouble with my set up. I have the original manual steering column. No shifter on this one. My tranny is 4 on the floor. I then have a Borgeson Steering shaft connecting the column to the input shaft of the P/S gear. I do not have a rag joint.
Do I need a different column, really?
Do I need a Rag Joint? What is the purpose of a rag joint anyway??
By the way, my rig is 4X4 so the gear box is out toward the front of the truck.
Thanks, as always, for your comments and advise.
Do I need a different column, really?
Do I need a Rag Joint? What is the purpose of a rag joint anyway??
By the way, my rig is 4X4 so the gear box is out toward the front of the truck.
Thanks, as always, for your comments and advise.
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If you have the Bendix box that has 4 bolts for top cover with a cast in letter "B" it will be a direct swap with your manual box. With your set up without the original rag joint I haven't a clue, the rag not only corrects alignment but eliminates road noise and vibration. Get a replacement (correct) shaft and rag joint.
If the box has a 2 bolt cover it's a Saginaw box a way better unit, cheaper to rebuild without the leak problems and twitchy steering Bendix gives you but then you'll need the shorter column app 2-2 1/4" shorter with that box.
Oops, I just reread that your trucks a 4 x 4, above reply was for 2 x 4.
Not a clue with 4 x 4's, other members should chime in shortly.
If the box has a 2 bolt cover it's a Saginaw box a way better unit, cheaper to rebuild without the leak problems and twitchy steering Bendix gives you but then you'll need the shorter column app 2-2 1/4" shorter with that box.
Oops, I just reread that your trucks a 4 x 4, above reply was for 2 x 4.
Not a clue with 4 x 4's, other members should chime in shortly.
Last edited by "Beemer Nut"; Mar 21, 2007 at 11:16 AM.
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1967 F100 4X4's have a steering shaft and coupling. Since the OP has the original steering column, I assume it's still there. There's no rag joint per se on a 4X4 of this vintage.
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Oddly enough, I just finished converting my 1971 4x4 F100 to power steering today. I used the original steering column. I got a steering shaft from Borgeson as well. I also did one of my highboys and I used the original steering column there also.
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Sounds like I will be OK with my set up. The conversion was quite easy. I used a P/S gear off of a 73 - 76 F-100/150 4X4 and had the rotation of the shaft reversed. It was practically a bolt up application. Alot easier than I thought.
Thanks for your input.
Thanks for your input.
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "frame horn"?
As I said, it was practically a direct bolt up. I did have to grind a very small area where the front cross member pokes thru. And I had to drill two new holes in the frame and tap one of them. After that it was just bolt up and go, after connecting the P/S lines and such.
As I said, it was practically a direct bolt up. I did have to grind a very small area where the front cross member pokes thru. And I had to drill two new holes in the frame and tap one of them. After that it was just bolt up and go, after connecting the P/S lines and such.
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Frame horn: A term for the front section of a frame member ahead of the crossmember which terminates in the front bumper. (My definition...perhaps not an exact one, but hopefully close enough!)
Since the steering box in a 4X4 bolts to that section of the frame ahead of the crossmember, I was wondering if you had to do any frame trimming or welding in that area to gain clearance for the box. Apparently not...
Got any pics of the finished installation?
Since the steering box in a 4X4 bolts to that section of the frame ahead of the crossmember, I was wondering if you had to do any frame trimming or welding in that area to gain clearance for the box. Apparently not...
Got any pics of the finished installation?
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When I did my swap, I used all 78-79 F150 components. Not quite bolt on, but after two days I am very happy with it. I did read the article in the tech section but I decided to go the 1979 direction instead. I did find that the 1979 tie rod ends are bigger so I had to get a tapered reamer to enlarge the holes for the tie rods.
I reread your original post and to finish up there, I think the rag joint was most likely the cheapest way to get that job done.
I reread your original post and to finish up there, I think the rag joint was most likely the cheapest way to get that job done.
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Originally Posted by The67Beast
I used a P/S gear off of a 73 - 76 F-100/150 4X4 and had the rotation of the shaft reversed.
Last edited by 70blue; Mar 23, 2007 at 10:19 PM.
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I did the same swap and used the stock steering column without problems. Still haven't found the perfect solution for my drag link though. I used the original one by heating it in the center and turning one end 90 degrees. A little too long though as it turns farther in one direction than the other, but I figured I'd live with it until I can find an adjustable replacement.
