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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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Question Non FFV to FFv

Does anyone know what specific part and/or parts are different to go from non FFV to FFV?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Well, the Computer would need to be different to calculate the difference. The fuel injectors need different seals for the added alcohol content. Guessing the Fuel pump might be different as well. Way not worth it to convert. You pay more for fuel using E85. Read into it more before even considering it.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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gas lines are stainless also.....

lots of discussion about E85...especially with reguards to tuners as of late and the high octane levels in E85....(105 octane)....

read up....i'm glad i have the option with my truck...
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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E85 is nice, it looks cheap, and gives you that happy tree hugger wam feeling, but in all reality, it's crap.

keep your truck as it is or trade for another one that is FFV. you will spend more time/money/effort in converting your vehicle for no actual payoff. the "savings" you'll see in the cost of E85 will be offset by the more frequent trips to refill the tanks. E-85 will on average get less than 300 miles per tank. Whereas regular 87 octane will get 400+ miles per tank.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Yeah, I don't think E85 will be useful until we have some type of oil crisis. Even then it still contains some oil and might be too expensive. I will just buy a horse.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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I have some first hand experience with E85 and mileage. We've got a 2006 F150 FFV here. On gas, it gets 15mpg. On E85, it gets 13mpg. Both those go up or down a bit depending on usage, but under normal use that's the average. Considering the price difference here, and that it was a no cost option, we come out ahead. Crap? Hardly.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Well, the way I figure is that if eventually E85 can only replace as much as 10% of gas consumption in the US, the gas prices will have to go WAY down. Supply and demand and all that....

According to the EPA, it will cost me $20 more A YEAR to operate on E85...so yeah, if available, I'll use it. But right now, in NY it's not available.

No tree hugger here, I just want CHEAPER GAS!!!!
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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E85 is nice, it looks cheap, and gives you that happy tree hugger wam feeling, but in all reality, it's crap.

keep your truck as it is or trade for another one that is FFV. you will spend more time/money/effort in converting your vehicle for no actual payoff. the "savings" you'll see in the cost of E85 will be offset by the more frequent trips to refill the tanks. E-85 will on average get less than 300 miles per tank. Whereas regular 87 octane will get 400+ miles per tank.
So if I have a green FFV F150, does that make me more of a tree hugger?
 
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of course it does. just be sure to wear recycled tire sandals and boycott deodorant.

anyways, to each his own, but I personally won't be running E85 unless the price is < $0.50 than 87 octane. I know some states are that way, but the majority aren't.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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E85 is nice, it looks cheap, and gives you that happy tree hugger wam feeling, but in all reality, it's crap.

keep your truck as it is or trade for another one that is FFV. you will spend more time/money/effort in converting your vehicle for no actual payoff. the "savings" you'll see in the cost of E85 will be offset by the more frequent trips to refill the tanks. E-85 will on average get less than 300 miles per tank. Whereas regular 87 octane will get 400+ miles per tank.
I get under 300 miles per tank (27 gallon) with 87octane. I am not a hard driver and drive mostly highway.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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I've got the 30 gallon tank and I typically get 400 ish per tank. thats with mostly city driving and a light foot.
 
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