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new to bio...
ive been looking into buying a ready made processor...
where can i find out more info on how to turn waste veggie oil into fule? im sure that there is more to it then putting veg. oil in one end and out pops biodiesel... does anything need to be done to my truck to run this stuff? and what about mixing bio- with #2 diesel?
where can i find out more info on how to turn waste veggie oil into fule? im sure that there is more to it then putting veg. oil in one end and out pops biodiesel... does anything need to be done to my truck to run this stuff? and what about mixing bio- with #2 diesel?
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Ok you havent read up on this site yet so here goes quick. Its cheaper to make your own if you have the means. No converision is ness for 100 bio. You can mix it however you like. It easiest if you listen to our formula, you can make it more complicated if you tritrate and all that stuff that the online for sale guys have.
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Originally Posted by Miller
ive been looking into buying a ready made processor...
where can i find out more info on how to turn waste veggie oil into fule? im sure that there is more to it then putting veg. oil in one end and out pops biodiesel... does anything need to be done to my truck to run this stuff? and what about mixing bio- with #2 diesel?
where can i find out more info on how to turn waste veggie oil into fule? im sure that there is more to it then putting veg. oil in one end and out pops biodiesel... does anything need to be done to my truck to run this stuff? and what about mixing bio- with #2 diesel?
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Wow I just re-read my post and now I am offended at myself. My education seems so low with the communication skill that I presented. It is as if I did not want him to make it himself. My appologies Mr. Miller, and welcome to the forum. Let it be know that the two best "engineers and chemical specialist" frequent this forum. I, on the other hand, just absorb as much info as these gentlemen can give. I introduce to you Fabmandelux, and Phydeaux88.
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Originally Posted by Miller
ive been looking into buying a ready made processor...
where can i find out more info on how to turn waste veggie oil into fule? im sure that there is more to it then putting veg. oil in one end and out pops biodiesel... does anything need to be done to my truck to run this stuff? and what about mixing bio- with #2 diesel?
where can i find out more info on how to turn waste veggie oil into fule? im sure that there is more to it then putting veg. oil in one end and out pops biodiesel... does anything need to be done to my truck to run this stuff? and what about mixing bio- with #2 diesel?
Be prepared to change your fuel filter a few times because BD will scrub you fuel system clean and all that gunk will clog your filter quickly. A couple of tanks of BD wil net you a sparkling clean fuel system and then no more filter worries.
"what about mixing bio- with #2 diesel" They are 100% compatible and when you buy commercial blends you get a mixture of BD and Dino.
As to the processor the Appleseed, while not the only or most efficient DIY around, it's a proven method and not a bad starting place. It doesn't requre special skills to put together and it can be done fairly inexpensively. If you want more sophistication Fabmandelux is your source.
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Hi Miller! Welcome to the blissful world of biodiesel!! I have a 1999.5 PSB that is running Washington-grown canola oil BD right now and absolutely loves it and so do I. Your PSD will do just fine on BD without any changes whatsoever, and once you start using it, you'll never stop. Turns your clattering, burning toxic exhaust spewing PSD into a purring 'pleasant to be around' best friend. Still sounds and acts like a diesel, but oh so much better in so many ways! 
Your only risk is if you don't quite make your BD properly, then you could clog up a filter or fuel system. Be very diligent, or buy from a good processor, and you'll be in good shape. I don't make my own, but know exactly where it's coming from.
Your only risk is if you don't quite make your BD properly, then you could clog up a filter or fuel system. Be very diligent, or buy from a good processor, and you'll be in good shape. I don't make my own, but know exactly where it's coming from.
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Links to processors anyone ? The only one I know of is the one by "Fredom Fuel America" What do you guys think of that one ?
I have been thinking about for some time.
Whats the average cost per gallon ?
I have been thinking about for some time.
Whats the average cost per gallon ?
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Have you been to the Biodiesel.org site yet? They list a number of the processors and distributers...
http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/guide/
Prices are going to vary quite a bit depending on the type of oil used to make the BD. For the premium Washington grown canola oil BD I just bought a few weeks ago, I paid around $3.15/gal. I wanted Washington canola oil BD, so I'm willing to pay that price for my personal use. You could possibly get cheaper canola oil BD in the N. Dakota area, but here in Washington state canola is currently rather expensive. It's a choice on my part. I can get cheaper B20 made from Iowa soybean oil nearby for about 5-7cents over #2 petrodiesel, but I wanted Washington canola oil BD. I'm willing to support local production to help get it going in the state.
Soybean, palm, waste fry oil, etc. are probably quite a bit cheaper. You'll have to ask what kind of oil is used for the BD when you buy it.
http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/guide/
Prices are going to vary quite a bit depending on the type of oil used to make the BD. For the premium Washington grown canola oil BD I just bought a few weeks ago, I paid around $3.15/gal. I wanted Washington canola oil BD, so I'm willing to pay that price for my personal use. You could possibly get cheaper canola oil BD in the N. Dakota area, but here in Washington state canola is currently rather expensive. It's a choice on my part. I can get cheaper B20 made from Iowa soybean oil nearby for about 5-7cents over #2 petrodiesel, but I wanted Washington canola oil BD. I'm willing to support local production to help get it going in the state.
Soybean, palm, waste fry oil, etc. are probably quite a bit cheaper. You'll have to ask what kind of oil is used for the BD when you buy it.
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If you want to make home brew check out
http://www.biodieselcommunity.org
best knowlege base I have found so far; although, not the only one.
http://www.biodieselcommunity.org
best knowlege base I have found so far; although, not the only one.
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