Maxlife Syn-Blend.
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Maxlife Syn-Blend.
I see that Maxlife is now available in a Syn-Blend formula.
So how will this oil compare to DuraBlend?
I've been using DuraBlend in my 96 Explorer since day one, it now has over 120K.
I see no leaks, so if it ain't broke don't fix it or to prevent should I switch?
Oh, both are $ the same.
So how will this oil compare to DuraBlend?
I've been using DuraBlend in my 96 Explorer since day one, it now has over 120K.
I see no leaks, so if it ain't broke don't fix it or to prevent should I switch?
Oh, both are $ the same.
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Maxlife always has been a blend. MSDS has shown 12-22% PAO for years. In my opinion, Maxlife is better than Durablend. Remember not only do you get the PAO with the Maxlife, but also you get 300 ppm moly. Nice package. I would go for it. In fact, I already have. I have 9 cases of Maxlife at home, 4 cases at $2.34 a quart, the rest for less than $2 a quart.
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I have been using the Maxlife 5w20 for past 20K miles in my 99 RAnger 2.5L four. MPG is great and engine is quiet and smooth. Last oil change was 5K and no consumption, I have 97K on it.
I use the Maxlife Syn 10w30 in my 87 TBird Turbo coupe, I wish they would make the Syn version in 5w20 as I would use that in place of the 10w30.
I called Valvoline when I saw the new bottles and was told that the formula is the same just new bottle lable.
Dan
I use the Maxlife Syn 10w30 in my 87 TBird Turbo coupe, I wish they would make the Syn version in 5w20 as I would use that in place of the 10w30.
I called Valvoline when I saw the new bottles and was told that the formula is the same just new bottle lable.
Dan
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Originally Posted by MScotty
Thanks TallPaul.
Actually I have used Maxlife, but that was in my 87 T-Bird. (1987, back in the dino days, was Mobil 1 around then?)
Actually I have used Maxlife, but that was in my 87 T-Bird. (1987, back in the dino days, was Mobil 1 around then?)
Mobil 1 was first on the market in 1972 I beleive. I clearly remember ads for Mobil 1, and seeing Mobil 1 in quart cans, as far back as 1975 - '76. They came in a bright silver can, with the "1" in Mobil 1 in silver with a black background.
Mobil 1 advertised in Popular Mechanics, Popular Science and similar magazines back in the mid 70s.
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OK, so let me get this straight.
There are only two grades of Maxlife?
A Syn Blend that wasn't labeled as such until now and a full synthetic.
There are only two grades of Maxlife?
A Syn Blend that wasn't labeled as such until now and a full synthetic.
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the original version of Maxlife was not a synthetic blend. It was a conventional dino type oil with a high milage additive package.
Basically it works like this:
Valvoline All Climate+Seal Conditioner Additive Package= Maxlife
Valvoline Synpower+Seal Conditioner Additive Package= Maxlife Synthetic
Valvoline DuraBlend+Seal Conditioner Additive Package= Maxlife Syn Blend
I have been to every product knowledge class and sales class that valvoline currently has and that is how they try to dumb it down for their employees. The way they teach us is by explaining the technical aspect of our products and then presenting it in a way that the mass population will understand.....ie "Yes mam DuraBlend is the oil you should use" "Why?" "Because it helps everything inside your engine run smoother therefore it is better for your car". The average person i see on a daily basis doesnt halfway know where the gas cap is let alone the difference between 5w20 and 20w50
Basically it works like this:
Valvoline All Climate+Seal Conditioner Additive Package= Maxlife
Valvoline Synpower+Seal Conditioner Additive Package= Maxlife Synthetic
Valvoline DuraBlend+Seal Conditioner Additive Package= Maxlife Syn Blend
I have been to every product knowledge class and sales class that valvoline currently has and that is how they try to dumb it down for their employees. The way they teach us is by explaining the technical aspect of our products and then presenting it in a way that the mass population will understand.....ie "Yes mam DuraBlend is the oil you should use" "Why?" "Because it helps everything inside your engine run smoother therefore it is better for your car". The average person i see on a daily basis doesnt halfway know where the gas cap is let alone the difference between 5w20 and 20w50
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COLEnMICHAELS66. Perhaps the first Maxlife was just conventional, but talk on the oil guy site was that at some point Maxlife actually had some ester in it. The MSDS's dated 2002 show 12-22% PAO. Don't forget, by product info sheets Maxlife and Maxlife Synthetic both have MOLY which I don't see in the Synpower prod info sheets. So its a lot more than just seal conditioner additive. Syn Maxlife always had moly, but regular Maxlife didn't show moly on the product info sheet until SM.
Did you know the MSDS for 20w50 Synpower indicates it is about 80% PAO. Hard to believe when the other grades of Synpower say Group III>
Did you know the MSDS for 20w50 Synpower indicates it is about 80% PAO. Hard to believe when the other grades of Synpower say Group III>
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COLEnMICHAELS66, please convince VAlvoline to make the Maxlife Synthetic in 5W20.
My 87 TurboCoupe Thunderbird seems to do well with the Maxlife syn but the 10w30 makes the engine and turbo really sluggish untill the oil warms up and thins out. I think the 5w20 would be perfect as it would be alot thinner when cold and close to same viscosity when hot.
In past experience that engine cooks conventional oil so I want to stay with synthetic.
Dan
My 87 TurboCoupe Thunderbird seems to do well with the Maxlife syn but the 10w30 makes the engine and turbo really sluggish untill the oil warms up and thins out. I think the 5w20 would be perfect as it would be alot thinner when cold and close to same viscosity when hot.
In past experience that engine cooks conventional oil so I want to stay with synthetic.
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why dont you try 5w30 MaxSyn? I'm sure it wont be long before they develop the 5w20. with so many automakers reccomending it now they almost have to. ford dodge mazda chrysler mitsubitshi honda jeep toyota lexus kia and hyundai all call for 5w20 on the new models. i'm sure before long chebby and nissan will follow suit.
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also if you want easy access to valvoline pyroil and eagle one MSDS sheets go to http://pos.vioc.com there is a search link there for all product MSDS sheets that we have...and quite a few we dont have.
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Originally Posted by gusher
Amsoil was the first, Mobil 1 was second.
Upon further review it does look like AMSOIL first appeared in 1972 (which I had heard before, hence their tradeline: "The first in Synthetics"), and Mobil 1 hit the US market in 1974, as "BAD COMPANY" released their debut album on Swan Song Records. - Ed
been tagged since February 2007.Mobil 1 is a brand name developed by the Mobil oil company and now marketed by ExxonMobil.
It was introduced in 1974 as a 5w-20 viscosity synthetic motor oil advertised for use up to 25,000 miles. Later, the miles-specific recommendation was dropped and the product reformulated in other viscosities under the "Tri-Synthetic" trademark. In 2002 Mobil 1 introduced "SuperSyn" anti-wear technology, followed by Mobil 1 Extended Performance in 2005, which increased the use of this technology further. The brand now includes - along with motor oils - oil filters, synthetic grease, transmission fluids, and gear lubricants[1].
Last edited by Ed; Mar 19, 2007 at 02:20 AM. Reason: Punction mistake
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Originally Posted by COLEnMICHAELS66
why dont you try 5w30 MaxSyn? I'm sure it wont be long before they develop the 5w20. with so many automakers reccomending it now they almost have to. ford dodge mazda chrysler mitsubitshi honda jeep toyota lexus kia and hyundai all call for 5w20 on the new models. i'm sure before long chebby and nissan will follow suit.
I ran the Mobil1 10w30 in it up untill the change to SM and the SL version of M1 10w30 was 10cs @212F. The Maxlife conventional 5w20 is 8.9cs @212F. Not enough difference to matter when hot but much better when cold.
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