Lost my 460 today:>(
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Lost my 460 today:>(
I lost the 460 in our 93 F250 this afternoon, seized it up while we were taking all our plowing toys to store them for the winter. I've been a ford truck man for quite a few years, but have no idea on what to expect for prices to rebuild this unit and all the shops are closed locally, so figured I'd ask a bit to get a general idea of what to expect
It is a 93 460, but it has the FI. I've prices remans locally for a long block at $1985-2100, so just wondering if they can be rebuilt for less. The truck is in good enough shape I could justify dumping a new motor into it, but it does sit alot since it's just a scrap truck during the summer and plow trk during the winter, hence wanting to keep cost down...along with saving a penny
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--> Still waiting to hear back tomorrow from scrap yrds to see what's out there used. Also, being how it's injected, does this prevent me from using a little bit better cam with it, an "RV cam" so to speak...figure as long as it's either apart or getting replaced, maybe spending a few bucks for a little better grind might be worthwhile so long as it does'nt screw up computer stuff and run like dukie.
Also, any general pricing on a tranny rebuild/freshen up..kinda figuring so long as it's out it may not be a bad deal since it's got 132K on the ticker to get it freshen up too.
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Josh
It is a 93 460, but it has the FI. I've prices remans locally for a long block at $1985-2100, so just wondering if they can be rebuilt for less. The truck is in good enough shape I could justify dumping a new motor into it, but it does sit alot since it's just a scrap truck during the summer and plow trk during the winter, hence wanting to keep cost down...along with saving a penny
<!--graemlin:--> Still waiting to hear back tomorrow from scrap yrds to see what's out there used. Also, being how it's injected, does this prevent me from using a little bit better cam with it, an "RV cam" so to speak...figure as long as it's either apart or getting replaced, maybe spending a few bucks for a little better grind might be worthwhile so long as it does'nt screw up computer stuff and run like dukie.Also, any general pricing on a tranny rebuild/freshen up..kinda figuring so long as it's out it may not be a bad deal since it's got 132K on the ticker to get it freshen up too.
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Josh
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You can sink a lot of money into any engine if you want to, I put well over $2500 in my 460 10 years ago. But for a general rebuild, using cast pistons, you could probably get away with less than $1000 if you did all of the work yourself. You could get by with a "RV" cam without having problems with the EFI, but might want to chip it to see the most potential from your investment.
I have no idea on the tranny, if it's a E4OD, it can run into major money to rebuild.
I have no idea on the tranny, if it's a E4OD, it can run into major money to rebuild.
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The $2500 was complete though-short block AND heads reconditioned? If so, with a few "better parts" here and there that seems reasonable. Was just thinking if I have to go with a reman I may upgrade cam "just cuz", dont need it but what the heck
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A block reconditioning will cost you roughly $350 to square everything with a crank grinding/polishing. A stock 93 rebuild kit will cost you $570 which includes everything from freeze plugs to shipping from ebay. The rods may need to be reconditioned as well. The heads will add some more to that. You can pretty much assembly everything yourself accept the pistons on the rods and cam bearing installation. So by the time you do rebuild it yourself your paying close to the same amount for a long block without the warrenty. Check out some of the web dealers as well. I've found long blocks before for $1200 from a few places.
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yikes I dont know man If i would want to put any money into that truck if your only using it for snowplowing. You could prob find a new truck with running motor for the price it would cost to get a new motor in there, installed, and any rebuilding you wanted done. I usualy take the sign that if the motor seizes up then its time to move on. Good luck
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id pull it and have yours rebuilt then you know what ya got.i bout one of these long blocks from oreilys it last 14000 miles when the head gaskets blew. went to change them out and they sleeved al 8 holes!! the tops of the sleeves were melted so new gaskets werent even an option. junk
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you do have quite the dilemma there. If the tranmission is starting to get weak too, I would definitely take that into consideration. E4OD's are very pricey to rebuild or replace. With the engine gone and the trans having high miles, major $$$ repairs are inevitable.
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If you don't want to sink a lot of money into it, there's always the junkyard option - and that goes for the tranny too. You can probably pick up an engine and tranny less than a longblock from a reputable source (which would not be autozone, kragen, etc.)
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I'm not against putting a little money into it, I bought the truck at what I thought was a good price-93 F250 ext cab long box 4x4, body in very good shape-no rust, interior is still like new condition, new tires, 130,000 on the FI 460 when I got it, eveerything works in the truck as far as acc. goes, and drivetrain wise it's been soild, I paid $2K for it, took it to chicago 5hr trip one way from me, and back to pick up the plow for it and it averaged 12mpg which I was suprised at given the year of the truck, displacemment, arrangment..it's run good every since. Started getting some what I thought what lifter tick, shop said it was exhaust leak, I still think ultimately it was a collapsing lifters since my brothers 460 did the same thing but he caught it in time.
So the truck as a whole, I'm not opposed to putting $$ into within reason naturally. The tranny currently works fine, but it's one of those "as long as we're this far" might as well get it rebuilt so it's all new, cuz if I dont....the tranny WILL go out...you know the luck LOL!!
I'm waiting to hear back on junkyard motors price wise....if I can find a decent one I will go that route to keep costs down since it's just a back-up truck anyways....or get it running and sell it, then get another SD "for my wife" LOL!!
So the truck as a whole, I'm not opposed to putting $$ into within reason naturally. The tranny currently works fine, but it's one of those "as long as we're this far" might as well get it rebuilt so it's all new, cuz if I dont....the tranny WILL go out...you know the luck LOL!!
I'm waiting to hear back on junkyard motors price wise....if I can find a decent one I will go that route to keep costs down since it's just a back-up truck anyways....or get it running and sell it, then get another SD "for my wife" LOL!!
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Originally Posted by mustangman
what killed the motor,oil pump failed?
The oil guage started acting goofy, it'd go upt o normal, then go to zero...it'd bounce back and forth depnding on bumps in the road. I never had time to put a hard line guage on it to check it mechanically, just assumed the sending unit was acting funny. The truck plowed for 2 weeks and probably ran constant for 60hrs plowing/sanding, etc....and it never changed tone/sounds and did'nt show any sign of getting hot/weak-etc...
Either way, motor needs broken down, we dont have the time so everything will be done at a shop so I want to make it easy on them and not doing this twice later at the same time.
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I have gone all ways I have rebuilt them I have bought reman and I have bought salvage motors No particular problems with any just know who you are dealing with and what kind of warranty do they offer. I would not use an Autozone engine when there own (and more than one) say they are carp. Ford sells factory authorized short blocks for $1400.00. The most warranty you will get for a salvage is no bearings bad and no cracked blocks. I would probably fix it. If you could come up with a good salvage motor that would be a good way to go. Alot of good big blocks are hitting the yards now that fuel is so high.