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Well yours will beat mine I bet Im going for budget! So far all I have planned is just a rebuild kit, cam and doing some headwork. After that it depends on if I can find headers and an intake for cheap.
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This is just a stock 84 302 with 87 Mustang EFI, 74 351W heads and a custom cam. There is nothing special about my engine. Everything is factory parts except the cam. I'd love to stroke it out to a 331 and then call it a 5.4L 
Last edited by 51dueller; Mar 12, 2007 at 11:18 PM.
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I don't like the 351W's EFI intake as much as the Mustang setup. The Mustang has a better flowing intake, sequential injection, more versatile (can work on both sides) and there are a lot more goodies for the mustang setup. I also can make a more efficient engine out of the 302 than the 351W. I also got a good deal on my 302. 
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I was jsut gonna say that, I thought the intake was the same too. Do you have o do anything special to your heads when you put them on at all? What kind of cam are you going to be putting in?
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The 351W intakes are 2 1/2" wider than the 302. The 302/351W truck intakes are similar but are totally different than the Mustang/car style.
Pretty much the only things that interchange between the 351W and 302 are:
heads
timing chain
transmission
Flywheel
water pump
timing cover
timing gears
camshaft
belt driven accessories
To use the heads I just have to use special head bolts since the 302 uses 7/16" and the 351W uses 1/2".My cam is a custom grind for great torque and good horsepower. I don't give away trade secrets just like how they get the caramel in the Caramilk bars!
Pretty much the only things that interchange between the 351W and 302 are:
heads
timing chain
transmission
Flywheel
water pump
timing cover
timing gears
camshaft
belt driven accessories
To use the heads I just have to use special head bolts since the 302 uses 7/16" and the 351W uses 1/2".My cam is a custom grind for great torque and good horsepower. I don't give away trade secrets just like how they get the caramel in the Caramilk bars!
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Lol its all goods 
I should post a link for you showing you the cam I want to get, Im not sure if I need to do anything special if I get it either though. Like does a guy have to do something different with the heads if you get a cam?
I should post a link for you showing you the cam I want to get, Im not sure if I need to do anything special if I get it either though. Like does a guy have to do something different with the heads if you get a cam?
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I'd probably just get new stock replacement springs. The original ones probably are a little soft. The stockers are good for .500 lift and till like 5500 rpm before they float. Post a link and I'll run it up on Desktop Dyno for you.
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http://www.hi-performance.com/Mellin...eCamshafts.htm
And you kind of have to scroll down the page to get to it.
4 300 309 222 232 .509 .532 107 117 2100-5600 24227 $249.95
those are the numbers in the columns.
And you kind of have to scroll down the page to get to it.
4 300 309 222 232 .509 .532 107 117 2100-5600 24227 $249.95
those are the numbers in the columns.
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Well I can tell you right now that will only work with a carb. That is like a race cam.
Here you go: 302, stock heads, 600 cfm 4 barrel, headers with mufflers
307 hp at 6000 rpm
297 ft-lbs at 5000 rpm.
I can tell you that your engine will be a dog under 3000 rpm and will barely move your truck around. This cam will require aftermarket high lift springs and valve guide machining to clear that lift.
Here you go: 302, stock heads, 600 cfm 4 barrel, headers with mufflers
307 hp at 6000 rpm
297 ft-lbs at 5000 rpm.
I can tell you that your engine will be a dog under 3000 rpm and will barely move your truck around. This cam will require aftermarket high lift springs and valve guide machining to clear that lift.
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The cam just above it is much better but it is also carb only
Here's the other cam: Remember these are flywheel only
330 HP at 5500 rpm
352 ft-lbs at 4000-4500 rpm
I don't really trust these number because the program gets a little funky when set to roller lifters.
Here's the other cam: Remember these are flywheel only
330 HP at 5500 rpm
352 ft-lbs at 4000-4500 rpm
I don't really trust these number because the program gets a little funky when set to roller lifters.
Last edited by 51dueller; Mar 13, 2007 at 12:28 AM.