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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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found this on a Comp Cams description:

For 1999 and later performance improvements heads. Can also be used in 1998 and earlier heads with retainer to guide clearance modifications and Comp Cams valve springs.
..is this required when doin an OE PI cam?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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When we did the PI cam/intake swap on my friend's 96 Mustang GT we kept his original valve springs. I am not sure how much different the truck valve springs are but I would think you wouldn't have a problem.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bbender85
found this on a Comp Cams description:



..is this required when doin an OE PI cam?
No,no problems-the NPI's('96-up) use the identical same spring the PI's use. The installed height is different from an NPI to a PI.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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What is the part number for a PI manifold for f-150 I need a straight answer from someone that has done this swap. I'm tired of paying re-stock fees to Ford dealers that cant figure out what Im looking for.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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why, if the cams are exactly the same, would someone change them, or feel any differance?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by whalebird
why, if the cams are exactly the same, would someone change them, or feel any differance?
??? huh?
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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I must have misunderstood the thread. I just read that the cams are the same except for the cam gear. Why would anyone swap them if they are the same.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by whalebird
I must have misunderstood the thread. I just read that the cams are the same except for the cam gear. Why would anyone swap them if they are the same.
The camshafts are different specs-the PI cams being much improved over the NPI pieces,and is where the majority of the power gain comes from-very little gain is from the cylinder head.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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gotcha. I have been considering this swap on my '97. I will be pulling the drivetrain at some point in the near future and going through it. I get a suspicious "rattle" at start up and have thought it was a chain issue. I now have 220k miles and its time. I don't burn any oil, and no smoke, but I have considered resealing the motor and doing the PI swap. Would it pose problems on an original bottom end? I could perceive bottom end issues if the top end is refreshed, but I understand the short-block to be pretty robust and I have taken really good care of this one I have(synthetic every 5k miles, Healthy tune up every 30k). I just want to reseal some pesky leaks and get to the bottom of the rattling issue before it lunches itself. Thoughts?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by whalebird
gotcha. I have been considering this swap on my '97. I will be pulling the drivetrain at some point in the near future and going through it. I get a suspicious "rattle" at start up and have thought it was a chain issue. I now have 220k miles and its time. I don't burn any oil, and no smoke, but I have considered resealing the motor and doing the PI swap. Would it pose problems on an original bottom end? I could perceive bottom end issues if the top end is refreshed, but I understand the short-block to be pretty robust and I have taken really good care of this one I have(synthetic every 5k miles, Healthy tune up every 30k). I just want to reseal some pesky leaks and get to the bottom of the rattling issue before it lunches itself. Thoughts?
If you swap to PI heads on a NPI shortblock, you'll end up with an engine that has a compression ratio of approx 10.5:1. These truck engines are already terribly knock sensitive on 87 octane at 9:1 CR, so IMO-this is a bad idea unless you want to swap over to premium fuel. Swapping just the cams will yield you approx 15rwhp and 20 ft-lbs without a need to remove the heads, it's much less expensive, and is simpler.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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That is great info JL. I think that echos what you have already stated here in this thread if only I were a little more attentive when reading. That really answers a lot about what I want to do. I will keep an eye on this thread and try not to make everybody repeat themselves. Thanks for your patients. Oh... and thanks for the great info.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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I have another question. I hope it is not terribly off-topic, it may be pertinent here, but why is this exhaust for '00-'03 applications

Behrent's Performance Warehouse: Dynatech Supermaxx Ford Truck Stainless Exhaust System

Wow, i tried to cut and paste the link...I did'nt know it was that ugly.
Anyway, would it fit my '97
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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ok, link worked, Same question...
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by whalebird
I have another question. I hope it is not terribly off-topic, it may be pertinent here, but why is this exhaust for '00-'03 applications

Behrent's Performance Warehouse: Dynatech Supermaxx Ford Truck Stainless Exhaust System

Wow, i tried to cut and paste the link...I did'nt know it was that ugly.
Anyway, would it fit my '97
If I remember right,the exhaust manifold outlets are angled slightly different on the '00-up engines.
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by whalebird
I have another question. I hope it is not terribly off-topic, it may be pertinent here, but why is this exhaust for '00-'03 applications

Behrent's Performance Warehouse: Dynatech Supermaxx Ford Truck Stainless Exhaust System

Wow, i tried to cut and paste the link...I did'nt know it was that ugly.
Anyway, would it fit my '97
Yes,,it will fit.
I know of at least 2 guys with the same setup on there 97 - 98 F-150s
 
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