240 I6
I am in the process of replacing the 223 in my '61 F-100 with a 240. I'd be happy to start a dialog with you and then others will join in even, if only to tell us why a 300 is better. (I have a 300 as well.)
I notice from your profile that you are almost as old as me, so perhaps our discussion will not be about headers and loud exhaust systems.
I notice from your profile that you are almost as old as me, so perhaps our discussion will not be about headers and loud exhaust systems.
Last edited by acheda; Mar 4, 2007 at 07:20 PM. Reason: spelin . . .
Wow a 223....I had a 64 with a 351 and an automatic.....great truck. Anyway as you know the 240 is a de-stroked 300 and a little work horse. My 240 is in a 68 f100 that has 103,000 original miles. The timing gears rattle but other than that runs fine. It uses a quart of oil about every 1500 to 2000 miles.
I have a 2002 SD 7.3psd but drive the '68 more than i do the new truck. Something about the simplicity of it all that I love. Still have the 3 on the tree no radio, no power steering, no power brakes and unfortunately no O'drive. My brother has a '69, f100 240 cid spd o'drive. I would love to find an o'drive set-up for the 68. I'd kick my brothers butt and take the truck but he is younger and bigger than me ha ha .
Good luck on your projects and keep me informed on the 240.
I have a 2002 SD 7.3psd but drive the '68 more than i do the new truck. Something about the simplicity of it all that I love. Still have the 3 on the tree no radio, no power steering, no power brakes and unfortunately no O'drive. My brother has a '69, f100 240 cid spd o'drive. I would love to find an o'drive set-up for the 68. I'd kick my brothers butt and take the truck but he is younger and bigger than me ha ha .
Good luck on your projects and keep me informed on the 240.
I have a full-synchro 3-speed/OD that may be excess to my needs. I am planning on selling my '61 F-100 after I get the 240 installed (along with the full-synchro 3-speed that came with the 240). As they say: "Stay tuned."
The only reason I am considering selling the '61 is that I also have a '68 F-350 and there are a lot if things I want to do with it. I plan on enjoying driving that little 240 with a For Sale sign on it until someone wants it more than I do. (I also have the small matter of finishing a roof replacment - see my picture gallery.)
The only reason I am considering selling the '61 is that I also have a '68 F-350 and there are a lot if things I want to do with it. I plan on enjoying driving that little 240 with a For Sale sign on it until someone wants it more than I do. (I also have the small matter of finishing a roof replacment - see my picture gallery.)
Well, I still run a 240 in my '66, and the plan is to keep it, but she runs great for me and seems to have lots of guts left, and only after 110,000 miles on her, with a rebuild supposedly about 30000 miles ago. Although i am contemplating a 4-barrel carb and new intake.
acheda, if you do plan on selling that 3speed with overdrive, let's talk. I was thinking about a under/overdrive unit but a little out of my price range at the moment.
acheda, if you do plan on selling that 3speed with overdrive, let's talk. I was thinking about a under/overdrive unit but a little out of my price range at the moment.
You got my attention mentioning an "under/over". Please let me know which unit you are talking about - I have been trying to get a line on one for a long time.
The 3-speed/OD I (probably) will be parting with is a unique unit. (I should stress that I bought it by itself and have no certain knowledge that it is operational.) It is a "typical" top-loader Ford full-synchro 3-speed, but the overdrive is the same design as currently offered by Gear Vendors, although I think the GV version is larger. This design was used as the electric-shift OD on the back end of Volvo 4-speeds in the 60's. The unit I have looks like a factory job. The only thing I have gleaned from the net so far is that British Ford may have put this behind a 3-cylinder diesel in delivery vans. Another factor is that I do not have a slip-yoke for the back end. Obviously one would have to be acquired before the unit could be installed.
The 3-speed/OD I (probably) will be parting with is a unique unit. (I should stress that I bought it by itself and have no certain knowledge that it is operational.) It is a "typical" top-loader Ford full-synchro 3-speed, but the overdrive is the same design as currently offered by Gear Vendors, although I think the GV version is larger. This design was used as the electric-shift OD on the back end of Volvo 4-speeds in the 60's. The unit I have looks like a factory job. The only thing I have gleaned from the net so far is that British Ford may have put this behind a 3-cylinder diesel in delivery vans. Another factor is that I do not have a slip-yoke for the back end. Obviously one would have to be acquired before the unit could be installed.
Well, i have talked to Gear Vendors about an under/over for my 3.03 3speed, and they do have one, but is is appr. $1500. They suggested maybe a 3 speed with just an overdrive, and ive been looking for one for a bit. Im still in college so my funds are a little tight, and a little overdrive would be perfect for now anyway.
As for the slip-yoke, im sure I could find one that would fit, or at least get one made. If you are willing to sell, just let me know and i can contact you.
As for the slip-yoke, im sure I could find one that would fit, or at least get one made. If you are willing to sell, just let me know and i can contact you.
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Originally Posted by acheda
You got my attention mentioning an "under/over". Please let me know which unit you are talking about - I have been trying to get a line on one for a long time.
The 3-speed/OD I (probably) will be parting with is a unique unit. (I should stress that I bought it by itself and have no certain knowledge that it is operational.) It is a "typical" top-loader Ford full-synchro 3-speed, but the overdrive is the same design as currently offered by Gear Vendors, although I think the GV version is larger. This design was used as the electric-shift OD on the back end of Volvo 4-speeds in the 60's. The unit I have looks like a factory job. The only thing I have gleaned from the net so far is that British Ford may have put this behind a 3-cylinder diesel in delivery vans. Another factor is that I do not have a slip-yoke for the back end. Obviously one would have to be acquired before the unit could be installed.
The 3-speed/OD I (probably) will be parting with is a unique unit. (I should stress that I bought it by itself and have no certain knowledge that it is operational.) It is a "typical" top-loader Ford full-synchro 3-speed, but the overdrive is the same design as currently offered by Gear Vendors, although I think the GV version is larger. This design was used as the electric-shift OD on the back end of Volvo 4-speeds in the 60's. The unit I have looks like a factory job. The only thing I have gleaned from the net so far is that British Ford may have put this behind a 3-cylinder diesel in delivery vans. Another factor is that I do not have a slip-yoke for the back end. Obviously one would have to be acquired before the unit could be installed.
I should have remembered that GV calls their unit an under/over. That name is, to me, not accurate. What they are selling is an overdrive: one gear is OVER and the other is direct. In a number of earlier auxiliary transmissions under/over is applied to a three-speed auxiliary transmission that has UNDER, DIRECT, & OVER. An example is the Spicer 5831 made until the mid-60's. It has a "grannie" under, direct, and a modest over. Adding it to a three speed gives you all the advantages of a truck 4-speed with OD so long as you do not mind manipulating two sticks. These transmissions were made by the Brown-Lipe company before Spicer bought them and hence the name "Brownie" which has come to be applied these auxiliary tranmissions. If you ever see one for sale, please let me know. (This is ancient history - see my gallery if interested.)
Back to the present, I also have several Warner T-98's which I KNOW was original to '65 F-100's because I owned one. If you change your rear-axle ratio to something like 3.00 and put in one of these 4-speeds, you will have a better highway gear and still be able to start out in 2nd most of the time. (I did this in a '65 Mercury - a car, not an M-100.) (When loaded, or on a hill, then you use the "grannie" gear.) Even more exotic, and only for those who want something different, I have a T-98 that I put an overdrive on myself. I have no plans for it any more and would part with it to someone who appreciated it. (I understand your financial situation - I am not looking to get a lot of money out of this stuff. I just want it to go to a good home.)
Back to the present, I also have several Warner T-98's which I KNOW was original to '65 F-100's because I owned one. If you change your rear-axle ratio to something like 3.00 and put in one of these 4-speeds, you will have a better highway gear and still be able to start out in 2nd most of the time. (I did this in a '65 Mercury - a car, not an M-100.) (When loaded, or on a hill, then you use the "grannie" gear.) Even more exotic, and only for those who want something different, I have a T-98 that I put an overdrive on myself. I have no plans for it any more and would part with it to someone who appreciated it. (I understand your financial situation - I am not looking to get a lot of money out of this stuff. I just want it to go to a good home.)
MYSTERY TRANS: Ford + Euro-OD . . .
Here is a pic: (would have taken more, but camera battery died)
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...144091.520.390
If anyone wants to do more on this trans, I have started a new thread on the "clutch, transmission, differential, et al" forum. (Starting to get off-topic . . . well, it COULD be put behind a 240. In fact, it just might be, if I can find a slip-yoke.)
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ml#post4491462
The new thread has the same title as this post if the link doesn't work. (Please inform me via PM if it does not work.)
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...144091.520.390
If anyone wants to do more on this trans, I have started a new thread on the "clutch, transmission, differential, et al" forum. (Starting to get off-topic . . . well, it COULD be put behind a 240. In fact, it just might be, if I can find a slip-yoke.)
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ml#post4491462
The new thread has the same title as this post if the link doesn't work. (Please inform me via PM if it does not work.)
When I was in high school my brother in laws, dad but a Brownie over under in his '63 and pulled a 4 horse trailer all over California. 12 forward and 3 reverse is great.
I did the same thing in the eighties with 59 Chevy 2500 series 235 6cyl step side. The driveline geometry drove me crazy for a couple of months. Once I got it dialed in it was soooooo cool. I couldn't get enough traction in low low to make the truck pull real hard. Got a divorce and sold the truck before I got all the bugs out
I did the same thing in the eighties with 59 Chevy 2500 series 235 6cyl step side. The driveline geometry drove me crazy for a couple of months. Once I got it dialed in it was soooooo cool. I couldn't get enough traction in low low to make the truck pull real hard. Got a divorce and sold the truck before I got all the bugs out
We're still drifting off topic. How about putting a Brownie behind a 240?
(That's better . . .)
Threat: If one more person mentions Brownies, I'll start a thread on 'em in the "clutch, transmission, differential, et al" forum. My Dad had a two-speed in a '51 F1 . . . .
(That's better . . .)
Threat: If one more person mentions Brownies, I'll start a thread on 'em in the "clutch, transmission, differential, et al" forum. My Dad had a two-speed in a '51 F1 . . . .
OK back to the 240......and I will follow the thread on the Brownie. Got a question what year did Ford change engine colors from red to blue? I got a '68 and it is red, I remember my 64 was red. I have had people look under my hood and were amazed to see a Ford Engine painted red. I know the blue oval thing is relatively new compared to us old farts, just can't remember when they changed colors.
New Brownie thread so we can focus on 240's . . .
New Brownie thread is:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ml#post4492674
Dan-J: How about posting your Brownie stories over there to get the momentum up?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ml#post4492674
Dan-J: How about posting your Brownie stories over there to get the momentum up?




