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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Navistar to divorce Ford

http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/26/nav...rtner=yahootix

What would it take, if Ford lost the PSD, for you to buy a SD with a diesel. Which diesel would you NOT buy in a SD if Ford puts in Brand X?

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Ok. I just read all SEVEN pages on this in the Super Duty forum. Wow.

So, if Ford and IH call it quits, what would you like to see in the SD? What would you not want to see in the SD?

It is hard to compare the many moter options out there because all the cool engines are for the big rigs. I like the Mercedes that goes into a lot of Sterlings. There are tons of guys who love Cat, Detroit, Volvo, Cummins, Deere, etc but not too many have anything that would quickly go into a wun tun. Some may. My bro works at Cummins and he says, "we do have a V6/V8 developed, that Dodge told us to "ensure that it will install in anything a Hemi fits in" ". But they are not putting it in anything yet...

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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C7 cat would be nice but it would probably be to heavy
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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60 Series Detriot! 750hp twin turbo. Only Problem is, its about the size of the entire front of the truck. They'll just have to make'em bigger! lol
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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there arnt to many major brands left...toyota has the cat car in nascar...ford already has cat in there big 650-750 trucks....hopefully they wont pick a chinese diesel. Rumor has it cat isnt interested in "mass" producing engines on a level for ford..but if a ford struts a cat c7....im in.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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i have always wanted a john deere powertech power plant. these engine have some serious torque numbers and a inline six to boot
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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I thought Deere gets their's done by Yanmar or are those just the compact utility tractors?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Here is a novel idea, how about Ford make their own and quit blaming Navistar for all of the 6.0 issues.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Here is a novel idea, how about Ford make their own and quit blaming Navistar for all of the 6.0 issues.

I don't think you'd ever see that. It would cost too much to get the engine plant up and running. They'd have to charge 100K for each truck just to pay to make it happen.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Here is another novel idea, use one of the plants they want to close the doors on. They already own it. As for the re-tool cost, pennys on the dollar to what they are making off these trucks.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Here is another novel idea, use one of the plants they want to close the doors on. They already own it. As for the re-tool cost, pennys on the dollar to what they are making off these trucks.
Absolutely
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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But would they then ship 400 engines a day to themselves and not pay for them?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Well, actually Oricharger, they could, can you say Enron.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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HAHA

I would vote Cat!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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how about fitting a 12.5L 3000 lb. 526 HP in the truck. http://www.bellpower.com/Performance...526hp%20t2.pdf

All kidding aside, I don't think there is another motor out there that can compare to what International has done for Ford over the years. Ford better kiss and make up. They will be the losers, not international.
 
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