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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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I was look around on the internet for crate engines for my bronc. and i was looking for more torque than hp but have at least 300hp and found that gm makes big block at 338hp and 512torque (omg freakin huge) i was woundering is that possible to put it in my 95 bronc. i would love to have that coffee spilling torque in my bronc. if so what would i have to do. GM Performance Part HT502
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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there are ford crate motors out there too, you'll spend an a#%load of money getting it bolted in, swapping electronics, tranny, driveshaft, the list goes on. There's a Ford motor out there that'll make more than enough power, without all the headache of swapping brands. and if you need more power later, you can always get a turbo/procharger...The 502 is a killer engine though, saw a dyno run of the 720 hp model, that was cool--Rich
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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No!! Don't go to the dark side. You'll be banished to hell for evermore.

A far easier power boost comes in the form of a 393-409 stroked 351. You'll get scary close to the Garbage Motors numbers without having to swap out the complete drivetrain just to make it run.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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i know there are ford crate motor out there but every freakin one of them is way over 6g's. i was thinkin of getting a reman 351 and boring and stroking it out to like 409 or something i just want massive amounts of torque and i wouldn't know what to do, will it be cheaper to buy the block and everything and have it done myself with local shops or buy a turn key model from somewere if i bought a turn key does anyone now of a good website/store with a far price.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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I'm probably the only one who'd be caught dead saying this on here, but GM does make some good motors, and their crate motors are a hard value to beat. For what my friend paid for his ZZ/4 crate engine he put in his '68 El Camino, for instance, I think the performance is great.

But, like others have said, in the end it would cost you as much to bolt in a GM motor as it would to do the Ford motor; the difference is that the Ford motor would be quicker and easier to install, with less downtime, and you'd know everything would fit and work. For that reason alone it's worth it to go with a Ford motor IMHO.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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[QUOTE=jcp123]I'm probably the only one who'd be caught dead saying this on here, but GM does make some good motors, and their crate motors are a hard value to beat.
I have to agree, I have an '01 Z28, with a 408 stroker, 150 shot, all bolt ons, full exhaust, and in total all my mods have cost less than 5 gs, and I've got a 10 second car. GMs are less expensive to hop up I have to admit, I guess they'll shoot both of us JCP!!! I was, however, able to keep it reasonably affordable by looking on the internet when I knew I had cash for something and found it like crazy cheap. it may take some time to find, but there are affordable parts out there, you just have to be patient and keep looking. I think your cheapest way would be to have your block machined and then do all the assembly yourself, if your comfortable with such a task--Rich
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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From: Coweta,GA, GO DAWGS!!!!!!
Torque-high, driving time-very little= the gm 502,572, and the fmc 460 are gas drinkin beast, and thats in the stock form. It aint worth it!!!!!!! I have a saying that I live by when it comes to perf. mods. on engines= Any body can build a 500hp or more big block(simply bolt the parts together)but, It takes a true understanding from a true builder to make it in a small block.

This is my suggestion- I know you don't have free access to machining equipment but, Study engines, what makes 'em tick, how they work, what makes power? Learn to degree a cam, learn ratios', learn blueprinting, Teach yourself how to make power. Math,mechanics,and physics that's all it is. You should invest in inexpensive but good tools, dial bore gauges, micrometers,ring gappers, degree wheels and so on. You use these tools to check your machinist's work and his word. You can make your own power.

If you learn the paper first then you can build an entire engine on paper before you even buy a part,that's a big cost saver.

If you start you'll always do it. It's an addiction, and in a few years you'll be buying cars just to put the engine in your garage in.

So after all this my suggestion is do your homework and make the power don't buy it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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Do extensive homework. Screw GM. Factory ford motors have been proven to put out 700+ hp with factory ford parts. This is fact. That is not a crate motor, it is simply the right parts on the right motor. No electronic crap. Just pure FoMoCo power. Hit your local speed shop and look at what books they have on building ford motors. You will want one that has casting numbers and the years of the parts. Someone above said- please don't go to the dark side. Chevrolet is nothing but a poor man's race car. They're cheap. Why? Because you always have to work on them. Nuff said!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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[QUOTE=cfrives3] Chevrolet is nothing but a poor man's race car. They're cheap. Why? Because you always have to work on them.
Hey, I"m not poor and my Z28's more reliable than my bronco. actually, not one problem yet. but to be fair my broncos 21 years old too and the last owner severely abused it. only 77k though, so I'm happy. I just got mine running again tonight and I can't wait to go to work tomorrow. every time I get something fixed on it and I get to drive it again it feels like I just bought a brand new car and get to drive it!!! Deep down I'm a Ford guy so I'm not too mad

FORD= First On Race Day

CHEVROLET= Cracked Heads Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Every Time

See, I'm a Ford Guy--Rich
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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I sure am glad you posted that! I really wondered when I saw your name. I am not really that anti-chev. I just really don't have much use for anything they've put out in the last 20-30 years. I could tell you some wild stories about my fords from my past. Chevies just have a "too cheap" feel for me. Anyway- hope I didn't offend anyone.


P.S. I do like the camaro though-right up until the newest body style. That is just ugly. Don't tell anyone I said this though.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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I know what you mean by the "cheap feel". it's kinda hard to explain, but anyone who has went from a Ford to a chevy understands
 
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