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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Underrated Payload..

Just curious why ford displays such low payloads.. saw toyo commercial and they were braggin about 2,000lb payload and it got me aggravated.. yesterday i hauled 30 boxes of flooring weighing right at 1900lbs all together, and i never knew it was there until i was stopping.. could seriously have hauled another 1000lbs w/o a problem...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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2000 lbs of weight in the bed, means it carrys 1 ton. It should be a 1ton truck. Really the weakest link is your transmission and springs. Sounds like your springs are good, but trans might not like carrying that much weight.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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Ford saw 3050, other trucks they rate lower? its all the same ford makes the payload king.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Truck makers have to keep the payload ratings low. The loaded weight of the truck can't legally exceed the gross weight of the truck (on the title)

My older truck (1997 250LD) has a registered gross weight of 7000 or 7200 lbs. When I get a load of stone at the local quarry the guy won't load my truck past 7000lbs. This usually equals about 1000 to 1200 lbs of stone. I don't even know it is in the truck it's so light!

When this quarry had different owners (years ago) I hauled loads of between 1.5tons and 1.9 tons in my 1988 F-150 with larger rear springs.

The moral of the story is that these trucks CAN haul much more than they are rated for BUT legally they CAN'T and Ford is not going to be held liable if the owners exceed the GVW.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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ok im a lil confused.. my truck weighs 7200lbs, how is the payload determined?? The difference of the gross rate and the curb weight??
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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Even though its a GMC site, check this out for some answers.

http://gmcanada.com/english/truckgui..._capacity.html
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mred33
Just curious why ford displays such low payloads.. saw toyo commercial and they were braggin about 2,000lb payload and it got me aggravated.. yesterday i hauled 30 boxes of flooring weighing right at 1900lbs all together, and i never knew it was there until i was stopping.. could seriously have hauled another 1000lbs w/o a problem...
Ford rates their trucks for longevity. Of course you can haul more than they rate, but to keep warranty costs down, as well as safety numbers high, they rate them at a "Safe" level. As stated in another post, the limiting factors are tires and springs. With tires, on passenger vehicles, its a tossup between ride comfort and tow capability. The same can be said with springs. Regardless of our trucks being called "half tons", they are no longer such. Those are outdated terms these days.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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ok im a lil confused.. my truck weighs 7200lbs, how is the payload determined?? The difference of the gross rate and the curb weight??
7200lbs for a F150 is a bit much. I just checked my paperwork and my 06 Supercrew weighed 5680 lbs with around half a tank of gas. I bought my truck out of state and had to have it weighted in order to register it. Actually weighed it twice because the first time I had a full tank and it was around 5750 lbs- can't remember the exact # and can't find the tag for that one.

7200 lbs sounds like truck plus payload.

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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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7200lbs is your GVWR(Gross vehicle weight rating) which is the weight of your loaded vehicle, including you and your cargo. Don't get this confused with yor curb weight.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Right! The GVW on your title is the total weight of your truck INCLUDING any loads you carry.

As my earlier post explained, the weighmaster at the local quarry won't let me exceed that number when I leave with a load of stone. This translates into a legal max payload of about 1200lbs. MUCH less than the truck can actually carry, but within the legal limit!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Ive got an 04 f150 Scab...I installed the fabtech 6 inch lift kit with pro-comp all terra's and pro comp extreme 17" alloys... On top of that I tow a trailer that weights about 6000 lbs empty...After putting off changing the rear end gear and not installing a shift kit... I had to rebuild my tranny at 49k miles (overdrive gear was slipping)... When I had the tranny rebuilt.. I made sure a shift kit was installed and the rear end was changed to a 4.56..... also I purchased the superchips flashpaq to fine tune the shift points... also previously installed were the air-raid cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.. in the end My truck tows my fully loaded trailer perfectly... even up the hills... we'll see how it does in the future.. but im pretty satisfied with my trucks payload handling... BTW.. I forgot to mention Ive got the 4.6 ....
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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I think my truck is rated for 1600, It has the 4.2 and ive had well over 1600 pounds in the box with no problems truck feels stiff, in everyway for me the power is fair.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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i have had my 04 scab fx4 on a scale with 1/2 tank gas several times and it weighs in at 6060 lbs.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:38 AM
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let me get this straight. i have a f150 brochure. my truck is 4.6L v8 supercab with gvwr of 6700 lbs. my payload capacity is 1650. would i subtract my payload from gvwr to get approximate weight of my truck? if so, that mean my truck weighs approximately 5050 lbs? man, that seems high. i think it weighs less. i just don't feel like i'm in a 5000 lb. monster. it feels closer to 4200-4400. it's an stx by the way. anybody know better?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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I have a 04 f150 5.4L , load a ton of wood pellets ever month,about 10 miles. will bottom out about 2 inch handles fine. would not pick up a load at night .light beam would be to high...max pay load is 2900..
 
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