It's not you at all buddy, your a good guy with good info, this goes back over alot of post. I didn't mean for anything to be so general. The one who it was aimed at pick up on it right away. I enjoy reading your post and your knowledge is unreal, I'm glad your my friend , I learn alot from you, all hours of the night as a matter of fact ha ha. Keep up the good work buddy, your one in a million. I allways have you to talk to when I can't sleep, I just wonder when you do ha ha.

 

+1

And sometimes the truth hurts

 

There's one thing to take into consideration. The current F150 is into its fourth model year. So naturally, some of the competition has either introduced new designs or upgraded present ones. It takes years to develop a new design, and you can bet when the next generation F150 comes out, it will still be THE BENCHMARK for others to follow.


Speed and high horsepower figures are great in vehicles like Mustangs. Most people that buy a pickup truck could care less about HP figures. They want something that will do the job and be reliable. The current F150 still fills the bill, very well I might add.


The 2007 Tundra...give it a year, and lets see if it can match the hype swirling around it. The re-designed Tundra has only been on the market for a week, but from reading some of the posts here, one would think it had been available for years! Some here are crying and moaning about...Oh me...Oh my...what is Ford gonna do...Boo Hoo.



Ladies and Gentlemen, Ford can't change over night. It takes time...please consider that. Ford will have a new generation F150 out soon. And it will be the same old truck that Ford has offered for over 90 years. A high quality innovated hard working reliable vehicle, that people can depend on.

 

You're absolutely right. I'm sorry that 93Ranger is such a horrible writer that I read his posts for comic value only. I'm sorry Ford is getting their azzez handed to them in every imaginable test (because I own 3 of them (and 1 Toyota)). I'm sorry for acid rain. I'm sorry for hangnails. Sorry for heartburn...

 

they test the trucks the way they test the trucks,

loadem up and drive,
keepem empty and drive, whatever.
there not going to blow them up and see which one takes the best blast.

as for 93ranger, please check your grammer before you post for future references, its tough to read some of your posts.

this goes back to consumer reports and other mags regarding tests, id say its pretty much divided here on the validity of these mags.

there getting paid to do the tests, until there proven to be biased towards a certain co, or fixing tests to make a model better than another, id have to say IMO id believe them.

 

You care to explain why they are behind on the ball??? lol really its a 2004 Model its being redisigned as we speak so whats your point, its where all the other trucks are. they are still selling better. if anything Toyotas behind the ball because they have not released there truck to the public, and you must be a craker if you think Toyota well ever out sell a Real truck. The next F-150 well blow the doors off any noew 2007 model,2008,2009 when it comes out. so the new Tundra came out, the old was was just plain old and not selling, you think cause a truck is new for 2007 that the F-150 is nothen anymore and cant compete, well your wrong, they shoudl test a 2004 F-150againt a 2007 Tundra Crewmax towing, hauling bigger loads, being dented offroading, the Toyota woudl break first.

 

My thoughts exactly; you fools ain't nothin' but a bunch of crakers! He's on loce suckas!

P.S. I'm also sorry for pulling Rebecca O'reilly's hair in the third grade.

 

Here we go again, another mindless post with nothing to back it up except a lot of hot air. I'd like to discover what tea leaves, crystal *****, ouija boards and palm readers you consult for your facts and figures.


Even edited for clarity, you posts make no sense.

Toyota Tundra's are on sales floors nationwide...I'm heading over to a local dealer today to see what all the hoopla is about. I suggest you do too.


From this post on...I've had it...from now on...you're on ignore!

 

Sometimes gravity makes me sorrowful.

 

They are at and have been at the low end of the power range for years. The 5.4 hasn't increase torque since 99 at least, maybe since 97. (I can't recall 97-98 5.4 torque numbers) Most report that the drive by wire system actually decreased throttle response over the tried and true cable

They still have a 4 speed auto that's just a glorified rehash of the AOD from the 80s.

Like I said before, it's overweight and that's killing fuel mileage. Dump the boxed frame as it's not needed in a 1/2 ton except as a marketing ploy.

I will say that the current F150 looks the best out of the pack and I dig the interior hardcore.

I'd hope that a new, redesigned model blows the doors off the competition. They need it to. But like I've told you before, you can't count your chickens before they hatch.

On your last point, they probably will test an 07 tundra vs an 07 F150. My guess from the specs is that the Yota will eat the F150 alive. More power, more gearing, larger running gear.....etc, etc. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to bench race these two trucks.

I don't see how getting dented is even related to anything at all really.

Mike

 

Word on the street is that the F150's are slow, so this doesn't surprise me. Since IMHO trucks are work vehicles not racers, this doesn't bother me too much, but it's a little disturbing that it does so badly with a load...

 

old tundra sold just fine buddy.

new tundra will be just fine buddy.

toyota will beat ford in VEHICLE sales in 2007.

truck sales i imagine will be very close, and they will surpass ford if not this year, it will be soon.

and i like number cant and wont get into a pissing match with you. the day you actually own a toyota truck and speak with experience, like i have, combined with some good spelling you may get some credibility here.

 

I highly doubt that truck sales will be close between Toyota and Ford. I don't think that Yota has the capacity. But what they will do is sell every one that they have without slashing prices and with a nice profit.

Mike

 

DUDE, STOP IT!!!!...................You're making me laugh so hard, I'm freakin' crying.........can't catch my breath!!!


Need O2 STAT!!!

 

Right on............I think I read Tundra capacity is 200,000.

I'm guesing a LOT of that 200,000 will come from would be Ford sales.....at least for '07.