"Cold" Air intakes - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Notices

"Cold" Air intakes

  #1  
Old 02-07-2007, 12:05 AM
wickymustang
wickymustang is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,232
wickymustang is starting off with a positive reputation.
"Cold" Air intakes

I have seen several different "cold" air intakes, and I was wondering if they really are worth it. A lot of them just have a high flow filter and a smoother/straighter intake track than stock, but without a box to seperate it from the engine is it even going to increas power/gas milage? You are taking in more air, but it is hotter, so wouldn't that negate any gains?
 
  #2  
Old 02-07-2007, 12:47 AM
RangerPilot's Avatar
RangerPilot
RangerPilot is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Durant, OK (SOSU)
Posts: 8,462
RangerPilot has a very good reputation on FTE.RangerPilot has a very good reputation on FTE.RangerPilot has a very good reputation on FTE.RangerPilot has a very good reputation on FTE.
A long study was done on the Ranger board about this way back when.

Basically, at WOT, the intake doesn't produce any vacuum, therefore, it doesn't need more space to flow more air. So unless you've got some nice performance mods, it's going to make no noticeable gain save for the sound increase.

Now...a properly sheilded intake (i.e. the filter is seperated from the rest of the engine compartment with a heat sheild) is a nice improvement over the stock intake. Power gains? No. Combine it with an exhaust and a chip and you'll see a good improvement in power and MPG though.
 
  #3  
Old 02-07-2007, 10:40 AM
CobraXP's Avatar
CobraXP
CobraXP is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 4,123
CobraXP is a splendid one to beholdCobraXP is a splendid one to beholdCobraXP is a splendid one to beholdCobraXP is a splendid one to beholdCobraXP is a splendid one to beholdCobraXP is a splendid one to beholdCobraXP is a splendid one to behold
They can make a nice whistling noise...

Only way you will get anything from them on a stock engine is to replumb it to get the filter out of the engine bay and into clean air. And that is not a guarantee. It all depends on how well your engine 'breaths' to begin with.
 
  #4  
Old 02-07-2007, 11:20 PM
wickymustang
wickymustang is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,232
wickymustang is starting off with a positive reputation.
So if I was to put a "cold" air intake where the filter is in hot engine air on, along with an aftermarket exhaust would it be worth it as compared to the stock intake?
 
  #5  
Old 02-08-2007, 03:37 PM
emf22
emf22 is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 30
emf22 is starting off with a positive reputation.
I've been wondering the same thing. I can see increased power from a high-flow intake if it's coupled with a high flow exhaust but i can't see getting a noticeable power improvement from just the intake kit but rather just an increase in throttle response.

However, I've done a lot of searching and Outlaw Power seems to have a true cold air kit. Their box is temperature resistent and completely encases the filter. The box is bolted up to the fender well to get your air like the stock intake. the tube also seems to be made of the same temperature resistant plastic as the box. Plus their dry filter design seems to have a lot of thought and innovative ideas put into it which all make a lot of sense. I'd like to hear from someone on how it performs.
 
  #6  
Old 02-08-2007, 03:39 PM
jkhobson's Avatar
jkhobson
jkhobson is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 65
jkhobson is new and has a neutral reputation at this point.
definitely see some difference with a cai, tuner, & exhaust. check out the volant with the ram air intake. seald box unit with a constant supply of outside air. I like mine alot.
 
  #7  
Old 02-08-2007, 11:38 PM
wickymustang
wickymustang is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,232
wickymustang is starting off with a positive reputation.
So if I skipped the chip or tuner, would it be worth the money?
 
  #8  
Old 02-09-2007, 08:35 PM
wrobo23's Avatar
wrobo23
wrobo23 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: WI, sometimes MN & IA
Posts: 874
wrobo23 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Originally Posted by wickymustang
So if I skipped the chip or tuner, would it be worth the money?
if you mean skip a chip/tuner and go with cai to see dramatic results, no... not a chance. if you mean get a catback and intake instead of chip/tuner? i think it'll be easier on your truck - let it breath/exhale before you try and make it work harder
 
  #9  
Old 02-10-2007, 10:49 PM
wickymustang
wickymustang is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,232
wickymustang is starting off with a positive reputation.
That is what I was thinking. Even if the intake is sucking in "hot" engine air, it is gonna flow more, that combined with a freer flowing exhaust would help in the miles/gallon area, as well as the volumetric efficeincy area. Then I could put a chip/tuner in later down the road.
 
  #10  
Old 02-12-2007, 12:45 PM
wrobo23's Avatar
wrobo23
wrobo23 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: WI, sometimes MN & IA
Posts: 874
wrobo23 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
i'd still recommend a cai... outlaw, volant, etc. make nice ones.
 
  #11  
Old 02-21-2007, 01:43 AM
Jaxsyn1227
Jaxsyn1227 is offline
New User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4
Jaxsyn1227 is starting off with a positive reputation.
I raced Honda's for 6 years, street and strip. A cold air intake will actually leave the engine bay, or as stated above be seperate from the engine. you will always see power gains in an intake, whether it be cold air or short ram. a short ram is an intake that has a cone filter on the end of a tube inside the engine bay. the gains in power are very small either way, but the cold air intake will get better gains. it wouldn't be on the market if it didn't do something other than make noise. I would say to get it, the cold air.
 
  #12  
Old 02-21-2007, 08:33 AM
FordF350Baby
FordF350Baby is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,866
FordF350Baby is starting off with a positive reputation.
Think of it this way, if you plan to continue to mod your truck, its one step closer in do that. That was the second thing I did after I freed up the exhaust on the bottom end. I plan to free it even more with headers and a true dual, which compliments a cold air intake, because the motor can now crap out the air thats it breathing in, and it will simultaneously realize that, and the motor will breathe air in faster, having cleaner faster combustions. Its okay to get it as long as you continue to free up the exhaust ect...It kind of like, would you upgrade to a new tire on just the front of the car, the answer is no, you plan to do all 4, so cold air intake is like the front wheels, and the nice exhaust system is like changing out the rear wheels as well..
 
  #13  
Old 02-21-2007, 09:06 AM
rsylvstr
rsylvstr is online now
Postmaster
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Central NY
Posts: 3,224
rsylvstr has a great reputation on FTE.rsylvstr has a great reputation on FTE.rsylvstr has a great reputation on FTE.rsylvstr has a great reputation on FTE.rsylvstr has a great reputation on FTE.
i've had good results with my 3 mods...regardless of what the naysayers say, the K&N has a heat shield that DOES seperate it from the engine compartment and allow you to suck "cold" air from the fender.
 
  #14  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:37 PM
WhlM1's Avatar
WhlM1
WhlM1 is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 8,455
WhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant futureWhlM1 has a brilliant future
You should keep the stock setup (since it is a cold air style, and flows sufficiently), but use a thermal wrap on the entire assembly to shield it from heat soak. This will keep Ford happy, as well as provide a denser charge and increase power. Check out the results of this project from a few years ago: http://performanceunlimited.com/projectmpg/
 
  #15  
Old 03-13-2007, 01:41 PM
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
LxMan1 is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,Ky.
Posts: 22,392
LxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant futureLxMan1 has a brilliant future
I like the Outlaw Power CAI myself. It seals to the fenderwell and draws in outside air. I've been pleased with mine.
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: "Cold" Air intakes


Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

© 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.