New Owner Needs Help
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New Owner Needs Help
Can anyone give some info or advice regarding the EDGE A2 Programer with the Juice Platinum combo that I am looking to purchase along with a new 4" exhaust system and the 63 Series K&N Cold Air Intake System that I already have. On the exhaust system can anyone recomend a good system? We just purchased a 38' Toy Hauler with a 5th wheel hitch. and that is why I amy wanting to do all this, and not to mention everyone I spoke with around my work have told me to do somthing of that sort, only problem is I dont believe all of them and some dont even own a diesel. Any Help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Don.
Thanks Don.
Last edited by WOPSUSHI; Feb 4, 2007 at 10:50 PM.
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Do you want to keep your warranty or do you want to smoke a Corvette?
If you want your warranty, DON'T put a programmer on it. As for exhaust, safest bet is a cat-back system. Also, if you still have your stock intake, put it back on!! It will do just fine for performance until you get into the "stupid" mod range. IE. Injectors and aftermarket turbo.
If you don't care about the warranty, then get an SCT Xcal2 or Livewire with tunes custom written. They'll smoke any Edge truck out there. Add a pyro and water temp gauge to keep an eye on her. Go with a 4" Turbo back and dump the cat.
If you don't care about the warranty and want to have some real fun, read my signature.
If you want your warranty, DON'T put a programmer on it. As for exhaust, safest bet is a cat-back system. Also, if you still have your stock intake, put it back on!! It will do just fine for performance until you get into the "stupid" mod range. IE. Injectors and aftermarket turbo.
If you don't care about the warranty, then get an SCT Xcal2 or Livewire with tunes custom written. They'll smoke any Edge truck out there. Add a pyro and water temp gauge to keep an eye on her. Go with a 4" Turbo back and dump the cat.
If you don't care about the warranty and want to have some real fun, read my signature.
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Thanks for the info, just currious as to why the SCT Xcal2 you think is better than the Edge2 and the platinum Juice. I,m sure the Ford Engineers did their home work but theres always room for improvement, I know, am an Engineer myself, without going in to depth. The K&N and so many other filters on the market are very comprable and do a better job. Aside from the warranty issue, I am just trying to do whats best for my truck and my driving needs, I have no intention of racing or hotrodding my ride. Thanks
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Originally Posted by WOPSUSHI
Thanks for the info, just currious as to why the SCT Xcal2 you think is better than the Edge2 and the platinum Juice.
Originally Posted by WOPSUSHI
The K&N and so many other filters on the market are very comprable and do a better job. Aside from the warranty issue, I am just trying to do whats best for my truck and my driving needs, I have no intention of racing or hotrodding my ride. Thanks
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I Agree, Get The Sct , I Had The Edge Platimun With The A2 And Sct With Custom Tunes Controls The Transmission And Better Than My Ever Ever Did , Also You Can Hav E A Custom Tune Written From Innovative Diesel That Has Agressive Tow Haul And Uses Your Turbo As A Jake Brake, It Is An Awesome Tow Tune, Now I Still Use The A2 Monotor An A Gps And The Back Up Camera Is Nice In The Back Of My Horse Trailer
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Originally Posted by Powerstroke_wannabe
For filtration and air flow efficiency, you can't beat the stock Donaldson filter.
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Originally Posted by 6L PWR
The SCT is MUCH better as far as transmission control and makes better power in a safer manner. The Edge and othe 'Plug-in' types just modify the stock signals where as the SCT reprograms the computer. It's smoother and safer.
The stock filter flows more than enough air for even a moderately modified truck. The K&N and others like it allow oil to accumulate on the MAF sensor as well as allowing more dirt through which allows for dusting of the turbine. That means that it basically sand blasts the compressor vanes. That's bad.
The stock filter flows more than enough air for even a moderately modified truck. The K&N and others like it allow oil to accumulate on the MAF sensor as well as allowing more dirt through which allows for dusting of the turbine. That means that it basically sand blasts the compressor vanes. That's bad.
Using an 'Edge' (AKA a 'fuel box') while pulling a 5th wheel is a combo that's just asking for problems, not 'if' but 'when'. The SCT can be programmed to suit your set up and your 6.0 will thank you with many miles of trouble free operation.
The stock Ford/Donaldson intake is best for quality filtering and flows enough for what you're going to do.
Buy a cat-back exhaust and an EGT gauge and you're set to yank that 5'er all over the US of A!
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I put the Edge Platinum in my 2005. MBRP straight piped exhaust and a heavy duty South Bend clutch to hold all that extra power. But after reading what all the guys say on here I wish I hadnt of gotten the Edge but rather the SCT. SCT can be programmed to your truck and what your going to be using your truck for. I fell into the "Quick and Easy" or shall I say "Lazy" way of upgrading my truck with the Edge. Sure it takes about 15 minutes to install. The hardset part is drilling the exhaust manifold for the EGT sensor and tucking the wire away and then BLAMMO you got and extra 80 horses! Not taking into effect all that extra compression I'm building. Your just asking to blow a head gasket or fry your turbo. So now I keep it set down to setting 1. I dont do much heavy hauling so I'm not to worried about blowing a head gasket. But if I do I'm in deep trouble since she's now not under warrenty.
Go with the SCT and a set of good guages. No one here will argue that. It's not as easy but worth it in the long run.
Go with the SCT and a set of good guages. No one here will argue that. It's not as easy but worth it in the long run.
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Originally Posted by syc25ss
Go with the SCT and a set of good guages. No one here will argue that. It's not as easy but worth it in the long run.
You could always do what I did and sell the Edge off on eBay. I called Edge and told them I needed a new probe so I could include it for the next owner. They gave it to me. I sold it off on eBay for enough to buy the SCT and tunes. Just had to buy an EGT gauge. Probe was already done too.
Works WAY better.
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Originally Posted by 6L PWR
Why do you say it's not as easy? Hardest part is the same for the Edge and that's drilling the manifold for a probe. It's not hard to install the rest.
You could always do what I did and sell the Edge off on eBay. I called Edge and told them I needed a new probe so I could include it for the next owner. They gave it to me. I sold it off on eBay for enough to buy the SCT and tunes. Just had to buy an EGT gauge. Probe was already done too. Works WAY better.
You could always do what I did and sell the Edge off on eBay. I called Edge and told them I needed a new probe so I could include it for the next owner. They gave it to me. I sold it off on eBay for enough to buy the SCT and tunes. Just had to buy an EGT gauge. Probe was already done too.
Works WAY better.
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It's actually quicker to plug in and program with the SCT than the edge box. On the average you can reflash in about 6-10 minutes depending on how cold it is outside (for whatever stupid reason).