Where To Put That Weight
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Where To Put That Weight
Over the axles or just in front of the tailgate?
I added 480 pounds to my bed (Sand Tubes) and boy does it help with this weather.
I am about to build a frame to keep it stationary, the question is which position.
I added 480 pounds to my bed (Sand Tubes) and boy does it help with this weather.
I am about to build a frame to keep it stationary, the question is which position.
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I put 6 60 pound bags infront of the tailgate, intending to move them, and build a frame. I didn't get around to it, and they froze in place, and I havent had to put it in four wheel drive since. This is a good thing, since there is a very strange noise coming from the front end, but that is another story..... 
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I would say just in front of the tailgate if it wont be in the way of loading anything. It's not much,but think of a lever the further away from the axle the more force on the axle right? maybe not but that is still where I used to put the 600 pounds of quickcrete when I had my 2 wheel- drive. I used that cause it was cheaper than bags of sand at the time and it would turn into 60 lbs bricks that I could just throw in the dumpster at work.
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rule of thumb is center the wieght a little forward of the rear axel the heavier it gets the more you spread it out from there..on a big truck each notch forward on the 5th wheel = 150lb transfer to the front...but thats a 80k lb trailer and truck...400 lb in a 7000lb truck isnt realy going to mater..
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400 pounds over the axle would mean 400lbs over the axle, right? But since the springs are at the rear and middle of the bed, it wouldn't really matter where you put it, would it? I would put them towards the rear, behind the shackles. If you are driving in 2wd and you want traction, i would put them as far back, to create somewhat of a 'pivot point' for the rear axle, taking weight off the steer axles which have about 65% of the truck's weight as it is.
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I'm going to experiment a bit. The final outcome will be a set that I can easily remove and store during the summer and during towing. I'm thinking that since I've got a flip over gooseneck, I can try to make something that will mount into that hole. Weld some thing up.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Back in the day, I saw this idea except with tire inner-tubes filled with sand. Get some big enough to wrap around your fender-well. The rubber keeps them from absorbing moister and turning solid and getting stupid heavy. Just leave enough space on the ends so you can twist the rubber and use heavy wire to tie it off. Obviously it takes big inner-tube, but it is very effective.
Heck, after liking how much better my truck rides with the TT attached, I've considered doing this year around just for the improved ride.
Heck, after liking how much better my truck rides with the TT attached, I've considered doing this year around just for the improved ride.
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I don't think 400lbs would make a big difference
I run 1000lbs tractor weights when it snows, only using 4wd when it's absolutely nesccesary.
I do strap them back to the tailgate, without any light frontend issues.
I run 1000lbs tractor weights when it snows, only using 4wd when it's absolutely nesccesary.
I do strap them back to the tailgate, without any light frontend issues.
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I like the rubber sand filled tubes because if the freakish accident concept. I hope them tubes slide forward and hit the front of the bed in an accident vs. a "holy crap tractor weight" or other solid object comming through the back window.
I know, I know, all small odds, but my early life was experiencing freakish accidents and then I went on to the Corps and learned to create them.
I know, I know, all small odds, but my early life was experiencing freakish accidents and then I went on to the Corps and learned to create them.
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I have 560 lbs of sand in tubes locates behind the rear axle for plowing. It makes a huge difference driving in snow/ice in 2wd. I like the tubes because they are easy to move if needed. I just stack them 4 to a side behind the wheel wells.
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Originally Posted by Orezona
I like the rubber sand filled tubes because if the freakish accident concept. I hope them tubes slide forward and hit the front of the bed in an accident vs. a "holy crap tractor weight" or other solid object comming through the back window.
I know, I know, all small odds, but my early life was experiencing freakish accidents and then I went on to the Corps and learned to create them.
I know, I know, all small odds, but my early life was experiencing freakish accidents and then I went on to the Corps and learned to create them.
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Originally Posted by powrstrkn'
I run a 3/8 grade 70 chain through the handle with a binder, to the d hooks in the body, if any of that fails, the weight slinging around wouldn't be top priority at that point.