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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Don't forget to do intake temperature as well.
Dang, I forgot to add that one. On our new system, we have a temperature input with a sensor which can be used for either intake or ambient temperature. Do you think you would want both on the same truck?

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But I am also planning on getting oil pressure and water temp gauges as well, so in that we are in agreement, however, I am going to try to stop at 7 gauges, although I can see where the addiction would be in them.
Come on, it's only another gauge or two (or more). Joe's (CSIPSD's) wife accuses me of feeding his addiction...

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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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I would actually prefer intake temp, but I would be approaching it for more of a towing application, as intake is one of 2 areas where your power comes in from, if something is wrong there, you know that will affect performance, so I would actually like to have intake v. ambient. As to the amount of gauges, in all honesty, there aren't many gauge pods that I have found that say they fit an 06. I have only found 2, the favorite a-pillar and the windshield. The below dash one I have been told won't work since in 05 they started the driver glove box (which I actually like to have that) and the 2 gauge pod for the instrument cluster doesn't fit an 06 nor does the one on the steering column. So as far as I can tell, I really can't do more then at most 8, although I can only realistic think I would want 7, the other's would be more then likely for show then anything else.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Is there a good spot to mount an intake temp sensor? Ours will probably be 1/8" NPT. Any idea of what temps to expect?

As far as mounting pods, I have a new mechanical engineer starting Monday, and she will be mostly dedicated to designing new pods. We have an OEM pod to design first (can't talk about it in detail here, but you'll see it in production next year). After that I plan to turn her loose on all the niche pods that people want. Okay, I may put a couple of OBS pods higher in the priority list for my own truck

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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Well at first glance on the underside of the intake manifold. As far as temperature numbers, that is going to depend on what type of air filter they are using. Someone that runs a stock air filter is going to have a differenet average temperature then someone that is running an aftermarket one and even that will change depending on what type of aftermarket filter they are using. I would say if your using stock, you'll see around 100 or so, if your using one of the shield type air filters your going to see round 130(which is another good argument for not using aftermarket air filters). Your looking about a 30 to 40 degree difference in intake temps, when pulling that's going to change. The only argument that a shield intake might have is that they have an expanded cover area v. stock and therefore the increase won't be as drastic as with a stock filter(it is a shaky one, but it could be made). Now an arguement to have both an intake and ambient temp would be your intake is probably on the high end going to be around a 30 degree difference from your ambient(running stock), so that would also let you know that your intake has something going on, but I wouldn't have an ambient one by itself
 

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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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If you want to give up front axle temperature, you can add an ambient temp gauge as well. We are planning for 5 temperature inputs (not counting 2 pyro inputs).

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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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So how much does the Peterbuilt dash kit cost to mount all 16 of these gauges? Would it be cheaper to buy a Pete? Good God almighty, do you have time to look at the road with that many?

Thinking it would be cheaper and easier to just use a 20 channel temp scanner. Writing the logic to name the channels rather than number them should be a piece of cake. They also have an alarm/shutdown function that could be utilized as well.
 

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
So how much does the Peterbuilt dash kit cost to mount all 16 of these gauges? Would it be cheaper to buy a Pete? Good God almighty, do you have time to look at the road with that many?

Thinking it would be cheaper and easier to just use a 20 channel temp scanner. Writing the logic to name the channels rather than number them should be a piece of cake. They also have an alarm/shutdown function that could be utilized as well.
I think you'll be surprised at the pricing of this system, particularly if you have looked at Autometer's Nexus system. We figure most people will just buy 3 gauges, but designed the system to handle up to 16 for people like CSIPSD (Joe). I plan to wire in all 16 sensors, but swap in the gauge heads for the items I feel like viewing at that particular time. For a long trip pulling a trailer I'll add coolant temp, but maybe swap for intake temp at the dragstrip. The alarm & shutdown functions will be premium software options at a later date.

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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i just purchased 4 autometer cobalt 2 gauges for my 2006 ps, i got oil press, trans temp, boost, and pyro, all electric and all full sweep, cant wait to get them on the truck, autometer.com shows that these have blue leds in them and put off a nice blue glow at night, i will post pics when i get them installed.
 
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