If you only want 4 inches of lift, you may have to move the axle either forwards or backwards slightly in order for the track bar to clear the engine crossmember, or cut the crossmember. I used 6" '79 springs on my '93 and left the coil buckets in the original holes and everything cleared the crossmember-no cutting involved. I ended up with about 6.5-7 inches of lift(the newer coil buckets are shorter). I'm trying to remember, but I think that either you can buy an adapter to use TTB springs or you can swap the TTB retainers onto the old axle, but it was eaisier in my opinion to just get '79 springs.

 

really? were you using stock buckets? i've done a few swaps and never run into that problem! its something to keep in mind though!

-cutts-

 

I guess what I was also trying to ask was wether or not you think that it is financial sound decision to do the lift first and then do the SAS later, or would it be a waste of money and time and be better to do it all at once?

Kjett, when are you gonna have the pics up in your gallery about your lift and SAS? would be nice to see them!

 

I'll try to get some pics of the truck with the lift in when I put the 10.25 rear in and convert the front to 8 lug. I had a disk of the original SAS install, but can't find them. BC56845 was right about the 6.5-7" lift with 6" springs. I had noticed that after I put the 6" kit in both the front and rear, my rear sat about 1" lower with stock springs, 2" add a leafs and 4" blocks. I have since changed out to stock 1 ton leaf springs in the rear with a 4" add a leaf kit and a 2" add a leaf kit. The truck now sits level, but the stack is about 2-3" thick at the pin with stock blocks! Check out my gallery and you can see some pics of her in action during one of last years bog runs. As for your question about cost, I'd do the SAS swap now while you are doing the lift. Look at the cost for a 6" lift on a 79, then look at the cost for your 93, much cheaper to do the 79. I had 3" wide springs in the truck so the block kit that came with my lift fit perfectly. The only difference when you order your lift is to ask that they give you shocks for your 93 instead of the 79. I got my stuff from 4wheel parts and they had no problems making the change at no additional costs.

Cutts, yep they were the stock buckets on the 79 axle. I don't know it it had anything to do with it, but my truck is an Eddie Bauer and the truck had always sat lower at stock height (about the same height as a stock 2wd)measured hood to hood. Even after I put the 2" lift in and 33's the truck sat the same height as a stock F-150 4x4. So the coils that came on my model may have been different that a regular xl or xlt 4x4 coil. Beats me, I got her done now and NO REGRETS!!

 

Josh,

To give you a reference of lifts, go to my gallery called "Mud Bog Runs", fo the last pic. It says something about my buddy Nick geting lunch. In the background you can see from left to right: my brothers 77 F-250 on 35's and no lift, Nick's 89 Bronco with 6" TTB lift on 36's and to the right my 95 with the SAS and 79 6" lift on 36's I sit about an inch or 2 higher than his Bronco TTB lift.

 

so, you are saying that instead of buying a 6 inch ttb lift, all i need for parts is a 6 inch lift for a 79? (excluding the shocks for the 95) and pretty much everything i need should be covered in that 79 lift?

Kjett, i looked at your pictures this morning, thats where i saw the tidbit about you posting pics of the SAS, looks good, looks like a lot of fun too! Nice truck, one other quick question, which brand lift did you go with?

 

That is all I needed for the lift. Keep in mind that you will need more than just the lift when you do the SAS. You will also need extended brake lines (I converted to the single 79 style brake line that "t's" above the housing on the drivers side in the front and got an extended line for the 95 rear), the track bar for the 79 axle to include a frame bracket (i went with and adjustable track bar from BroncoGraveyard and fabricated my own frame bracket), drop radius arm brackets, and a drop pitman arm for your year steering box. You will need to make your own steering linkage as the TTB linkage will no longer work. I went ahead and drilled/sleeved my knuckles and pitman arm and made my own linkage out of DOM tubing and rod ends. The lift I am running is from Skyjacker, but after changing out my rear blocks to the new springs, the only thing left from the lift is the front coils. I also have since shanged out to the ProComp ES9000 shocks as I didn't like the ride from the shock that came with the lift.

Price it out and you may find it just cheaper to buy the coils by themselves and get the rest of the parts together that you need. There are articles around that show how to use the 79 steering rod with a modified 95 F-350 drag link.

I will be doing another SAS on my buddies Bronco in the next few weeks, so if you can hold tight I can get the pics and put them up as I get it done.

 

Thanks! Look forward to those pictures! this should be a summertime project for me, anyways, so I look forward to the info!

 

Well on the shocks-you need '95 shocks if you entirely keep the stock buckets. I took my stock buckets, cut the shock mount part off, and used early '90s F-250 shock mounts. They are much taller and they're only 11$ each. I had to brace up the sides of the coil bucket where I had cut off the shock mount.

 

you can do what i did on my bronco... i bought 5.5 bc bronco coils and a set of 7* C-bushings and that was all i needed! they were $160 for a pair of coils and the 7* bushing kit was $50! i have about $250 in my 5.5" lift on my bronco! of course that is not including the shocks, modified drop pitman arm, custom SS braided brake lines, or homebuilt dropped trac bar mounts.

-cutts-

 

so, on average how much have you guys spent on a typical SAS, nothing extreme, just a 6 inch and the axle, with a wedding to pay for in August, i guess i have been put on a budget oh well, its all good, so tell me how much I am looking at here, for everything, axle and all.

Thanks!

 

budget for $500, $600 preferably. things can EASILY start to nickle and dime you to death! then if you come under your target you have a lil 'extra' to play with! also it depends a LOT on the condition of the axle. if you are gonna need to replace ball joints, rotors, and an axle shaft you could be looking at another $300 pretty easily!

just an example!

-cutts-

 

Nice, that was less than I was expecting, thats always a good thing! I know its probably on the site somewhere but do you have or know where there is a list of parts required, i know there was a lot mentioned in the previous posts of this thread, just looking for a comprehensive list.

Also, I saw Kjett mention his 10.25 swap and changing his front end to a 8 lug pattern, i know that the 10.25 is pretty strong but is there any other benefits? it probably has disk brakes I am guessing is there anything else?

because we have a 1977 F250 2wd that has a floating axle with a limited slip, but I guess that truck is to much fun to tear apart. I dont know what the previous owner did to it, but it has a 351M and will beat the pants off any mustang 5.0, and its got over 200,000 on it, leaves a nice set of black strips without breaking a sweat. Its starting to rust a bit, but would make an awesome muscle truck with a bit of a resto... but I digress...

thanks for the info!

 

well, everyone does it a lil different but here is the list i used to compile my coil sprung 60. bc bronco coils, 7* C-bushing kit from JBG, late model radius arm brackets (cut off old truck), custom SS braided brake lines, 4" dropped pitman arm, dropped trac bar mount

its almost (i'm gonna jinx myself by saying this) indestructible. KO has POUNDED on his and has yet to give! he is running a healthy 460 and 44 tsl's! no discs, but there are a few kits out there. IF i were you i'd opt to go with a D70. they are just as strong but their is a larger aftermarket for parts such as disc brake kits and lockers and such! also, you can shave the 70, you cant shave the sterling due to the oil wells in the bottom!

git-r-dun man!

-cutts-

 

I spent about 700 on mine I think. I kinda lost track of it. I only paid 50 bucks for my axle. I bought 6" superlift springs, superlift adjustable trac bar, 7 degree bushings, I used a '79 tie rod and a '94F-350 drag link. I made my own trac bar bracket, and re-angled the '79 radius arm brackets. What got me was all the little stuff- bolts, wheel bearings, ball joints, brake lines, etc.