M5-R1 question
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M5-R1 question
I'm new to the forum so bear with me a little. I searched but couldn't find anything on what my truck is doing.
I have a 97 Ranger XLT 4WD with the 4.0 V-6 with around 132K on the clock. While recently pulling a lightly loaded trailer from Texas to Cali I started hearing a loud whining noise from the tranny area. I experamented a little and found that it made the whining noise only with the clutch out and only in the first three gears. There is also a slight thumping noise however I can't remember if that was normal or not. Anyhow, I also checked by throwing it into 4WD high to see if the noise changed and it didn't. $th gear seems fine and I haven't taken it up to 5th to see what it would do there. I've driven it a total of about 5 miles with it making this noise. Anyone else have any idea what this problem is??? I've heard these trannys leak around the shift plugs but mine looked completely dry. Tranny??? Transfer case???? Any ideas???
I have a 97 Ranger XLT 4WD with the 4.0 V-6 with around 132K on the clock. While recently pulling a lightly loaded trailer from Texas to Cali I started hearing a loud whining noise from the tranny area. I experamented a little and found that it made the whining noise only with the clutch out and only in the first three gears. There is also a slight thumping noise however I can't remember if that was normal or not. Anyhow, I also checked by throwing it into 4WD high to see if the noise changed and it didn't. $th gear seems fine and I haven't taken it up to 5th to see what it would do there. I've driven it a total of about 5 miles with it making this noise. Anyone else have any idea what this problem is??? I've heard these trannys leak around the shift plugs but mine looked completely dry. Tranny??? Transfer case???? Any ideas???
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I had a M5OD Mazda transmission I ran low on fluid and it got progressively noisier before failing. I don't recall it as being a whining sound but more of a white noise sound that increased with speed. If you think your problem is in the tranny, try changing the fluid and see (1) how much comes out, (2) what it looks like, and (3) if there is an excess of metal fragments. If further investigation is warranted, you could pull up the carpet, remove the shifter(s) and floor pan, then take off the top cover and have a look inside. You can also check those plugs on the cover while it's off. The manual says to put the trans in neutral when putting the top cover back on but I had better luck when it's in gear.
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Well, took everything off the truck (it was loaded with a dresser and a hutch) and checked the fluid level and it was full and deep red. Still makes the noise though it is quiter and only does it under load. Also, it's definately only 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear. Forth and fifth don't make any noise at all. Any ideas as I'm going to take and drain the fluid next and pull the top off this weekend.
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My Ranger did that. Come to find out, the very front lower gear (not sure which that is) was nice and sharp. Sold it to some guy that needed a tranny desperately. Still on the road though...You will probably need to find a new trans or have that one fixed. That would be my guess. My truck sounded like it had a supercharger on it. All of my buddies thought it was hilarious.
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Sounds like the fluid is ok. It's not noise from somewhere else being transmitted to the trans area? The clutch/pressure plate is ok? I am no transmission expert but I don't know of one part that would make noise in 1-3 but not 4-5. If you don't already have one, on p. 93 of this large pdf file there is an exploded diagram of an M5OD with a parts list following.
http://www.worldamerican.com/Catalog...s_Tcase_LD.pdf
http://www.worldamerican.com/Catalog...s_Tcase_LD.pdf
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OK, found a transmission and need to put it in. What exactly is involved in this? How much work is involved, and how much and what type of ATF do you use in it???
Thanks for any response as I need to know quick (trying to put it in this weekend)
Thanks for any response as I need to know quick (trying to put it in this weekend)
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Do you have a Haynes or Chilton's manual? They have a good general description of what is needed to remove and replace the transmission. A friend willing to help who has done it before is also invaluable. If it's your first time, plan on spending the day on it. Are you replacing clutch/pressure plate, pilot and throwout bearings? I don't remember the quantity but its Mercon ATF.
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Yeah, replacing everything and no manual. I have a friend that took it out from the truck it was in but there wasn't a motor attached and he won't be helping but might be able to give me some advice on it. I'm hoping everything fits together and that it's not too heavy to replace
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Do you have a floor jack? See if you can borrow one. It makes the job much easier than bench pressing the transmission into place. Buy some 2-1/2 or 3" bolts the same size and thread as your bellhousing bolts. Cut the heads off and use them as guide studs when installing the tranny. It gives you a good place to hang the trans when trying to get it in. I have a spare yoke and usually put the trans in 4th gear. By turning the yoke i can get the splines on the trans to align to the clutch hub. Also, if you replace the clutch, you need a clutch alignment tool. It's never easy but it will get the clutch close enough that the trans should slide in with the minimum of effort. These are for a Bronco/F series but should give you a general idea of what you need to do:
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OK, the transmission I just bought that Ford assured me would work won't even come close!!!!!! I have access to one out of a 1992 Explorer (5 speed, 4x4, 4.0 V6 motor) but want to be sure it will fit my 97 Ranger with the 4.0 V6. Anyone have any insight on if it will bolt right in or do I need to modify something to make it work???? Help!!!!! Girlfriends borrowing a friends truck and all I have is a sport bike!! Need to get this thing running again