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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Question 460 trans info??

Hello I just got a 70 f100 short wheel base & was told it has a 351m but it may be a 351c. I don't know how to tell the diffence but the engine is smoking baddly and my grandfother gave me a 87 460 and auto trans from A 1 ton f350 the engine has a 4bbl carb and a sticker on it where ford payed extra to have it with out the smog stuff it is a commercail engine with 66,000 miles does any one know if the trans on the engine that year is a c6 or a aod or how i can tell the deffernce.

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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if i had to gess i would think c-6
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Post the casting numbers off the heads, intake, & block
 
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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what is the shape of the pan? if it is "L" shaped its a C6,

most likely if its a 460
 
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Hi Jim and Welcome to FTE! Please take a moment to check out the Guidelines as they contain important info that you'll need when posting on the site:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html

There should be a metal ID tag on the tranny that should look like this:



If it's still there, get back to us with the info on so we can decode it to determine for sure what tranny you have.


And not that it matters since you're planning to yank the old motor anyway, but in 1970 the 351M wasn't being built yet and the 351C wasn't available in trucks, so if it's either one of those, someone swapped it in. If it's a Cleveland it's worth hanging on to as they're starting to get a bit rare.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Try here.

http://www.technicalvideos.com/ident...smission.phtml

btw, FTE has a drivetrain forum for topics like this.


That forum deals with all sorts of Transmissions.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Thanks For the info. I know the engine not the orginal I got the truck off my cuzion and he was told it was a 351m but i don't know how to tell for sure, but i will get them casting #s off both this weekend. If it is a 351c will the motor mounts still work for the 460? Right now i am just intrested in getting the truck going becouse i am all ways needing a truck haul garbage off, My 70 maverick, and ect. the truck is not in bad shape but does need so tlc. I will get him to send me a pic of the truck if he still has one and i will post it here.


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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Remember to tell your "Cousin" to get ALL the casting numbers off the block,Heads & Intake.

The 460 requires a special OEM 3-piece motor mount or the L & L motor mount.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Remember to tell your "Cousin" to get ALL the casting numbers off the block,Heads & Intake.

The 460 requires a special OEM 3-piece motor mount or the L & L motor mount.
thanks where would i get these motor mounts?

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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Thanks everone for your help. My grandfother traded me a 85 f150 for the 70 f100 so i guess i"ll be puting the 460 in the 85 now.

thanks again Jim
 
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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C6 has a modulator valve, AOD doesn't.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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the trans on the 460 is a c6 it has a 17 bolt pan and it is L shaped thanks
 
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Post the casting numbers off the heads, intake, & block
heads: D3VE-A2A

INTAKE: 7F19

BLOCK: 3S7E-AB OR 5S7-A8

THIS IS FROM THE 460
 
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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D3VE heads are open-chambered heads with combustion chambers measuring approx. 97cc's. They are pedestal style rocker mount.
C8, C9 or D0VE heads are closed chambered and have stud mount style rockers, they have 75-77cc combustion chambers and, in my opinion, are the more desireable heads to start off with.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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D3VE-A2A Designed for a 73 Lincoln with numerous changeups

Intake 7F19.. cast on June 19th in a year ending in 7 I suspect 1987

Block 3S7E ? ....I would suggest it is E6TE - 6015 AB
 
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