I have a lead on what the seller claims to be an original 4 wheel drive '56 F100.

Does anyone have an idea what the running gear would be worth as I'm not interested in retaining the 4 wheel drive?

Tim
Burien, WA

 

The value of the running gear would depend greatly upon what it came out of since Ford didn't make a 4X4 F-100 in 56. I think they began in 59. If the guy is trying to pass it off as original he either doesn't know anything about it, he's been lied to, or he's trying to pull a slick one.

Now, as sure as I've been so bold it's bound to happen that someone will say there is such a beast as a factory 56 4X4. If so, just chalk my statement up to ignorance.

Nate

1964 F-100 Custom Cab 292 V-8 3 spd
1964 F-100 292 V-8 3 spd
1990 F-150 5.8L
Check out http://clubs.excite.com/f100

 

Nate:

Thanks for the reply. I believe you may be correct on whether it was a "factory" installation. I believe 3rd party manufacturers may have added it.

As I indicated in my original post, I have little to no interest in the 4 wheel drive gear as I already have a Mustang II front clip and other goodies for building a truck the way I want it. For the record I've restored a '56 F100 previously, but now want to do one without regard to how it came from the factory.

Nate wrote:

>The value of the running gear
>would depend greatly upon what
>it came out of since
>Ford didn't make a 4X4
>F-100 in 56. I
>think they began in 59.
> If the guy is
>trying to pass it off
>as original he either doesn't
>know anything about it, he's
>been lied to, or he's
>trying to pull a slick
>one.
>
>Now, as sure as I've been
>so bold it's bound to
>happen that someone will say
>there is such a beast
>as a factory 56 4X4.
> If so, just chalk
>my statement up to ignorance.
>
>
>Nate
>

 

Tim,
What it might be is a H@M 4 by conversion. These were factory authorized conversion done by H@M, I don't remember what the intial's stand for. The company did coversions on all the big three before they started producing their own. H@M also did quite a few big truck conversions. The H@M trucks are worth quite a bit from what I've read.
If it is a H@M it should have their badgeing on it and there should be a ID plate somewhere on it. I believe next to the facotry ID plate. Either Custom Classic Truck or 4 Wheel Off Road did a article on them. I beleive they went out of bussiness in the 60's. Hope this helps.
BOB WOOD
60 F100
302/C6

 

The initials stand for Marmon-Harrington. They are technically still in business as Marmon Trucks, a heavy truck manufacturer. They did the Fords as a authorized supplier and you ordered a truck and it was shipped to them for conversion and then shipped to the ordering dealer. NAPCO did the conversions for GM. I would not part the truck to build a rod out of it. It has more value as a 4x4. It would be a shame to do it. Barry

 

What do you want for your 4x4 set-up , E-Mail me jstuddard@wavecomputers.net

 

 

The truck has already had the frame cut down to the short box length so it's not stock. I'm also a stock person with 6 stock FOMOCO's so I understand the issue. However, given the modified nature of the truck, if I buy it, I may not keep the M-H setup. A lot will depend upon how it looks when I actually get a look at it on Sunday.

Thanks for the response.

Tim

>The initials stand for Marmon-Harrington. They
>are technically still in business
>as Marmon Trucks, a heavy
>truck manufacturer. They did the
>Fords as a authorized supplier
>and you ordered a truck
>and it was shipped to
>them for conversion and then
>shipped to the ordering dealer.
>NAPCO did the conversions for
>GM. I would not part
>the truck to build a
>rod out of it. It
>has more value as a
>4x4. It would be a
>shame to do it.
> Barry

 

Barry:

I might add that the truck has a 351C powering it so it's not stock in more ways than just the frame cut.

Tim

 

Let me know what you decide on the frame and running gear i may be able to use it . jstuddard@wavecomputers.net

 

I'm going to look at it tomorrow (Sunday) and will let you know after inspecting it. The seller is a long distance trucker and arrives home in the morning. I'll try to get over in the afternoon.


>Let me know what you decide
>on the frame and running
>gear i may be able
>to use it .
>jstuddard@wavecomputers.net

 

Today I looked at a '56 F100 with 4 wheel drive that the seller thought
was a Marmon Harrington unit. Upon closer inspection, it appeared to me
that the frame and 4 wheel drive were out of a mid 60's pickup. The
only tags I could find on the transfer case were marked as follows:

Serial # 416374
Model 24
B/M 300205

The front knuckles were totally enclosed with no u-joints showing.
There are warn hubs in the front axles. The 4 speed transmission has a
parking brake on the rear of it which I believe is out of a big truck.
The rear end has no rear cover plate and a very oval shape compared to
the round shape I'm used to seeing on Ford 9" Also, the steering box is
mounted on the frame with which appears to be factory notched area with
a u-joint to fasten to the steering shaft which I believe is not correct
for a 56. The inner fender panels had been cut with a torch to conform to the frame shape which has a a definate arch compared to the frame shape I remember from a 56 I owned earlier.

As far as the cab is concerned, it had no M/H marker plate and has the
following ID#'s on the Factory ID plate:
F10D6G35874
WB = 110
Color = W

Could someone decode it for me. I know that the F10 stands for F100,
and the 35874 is the sequential #. I believe 110 was the short
wheelbase.

Thanks for your assistance.

--
Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
tkbowman@uswest.net
Website: www.users.uswest.net/~tkbowman
(Pacific NW Carshow Information & more)

 

Hi Tim,
F10 = F100 (as you already know)
D = 223 six cylinder
6 = 1956
G = Chicago, Illinois assembly plant
35874 = sequential production # (as you already know.
My book doesn't show a "W" as a paint code. Does the rear axle have any numbers stamped on it?
Kenny

 

Kenny:

Thanks for the info.

The rear axle didn't have a tag on it that I could find but the data plate indicated a 3.73 rear axle and a 4 speed transmission (which the truck has but I believe is not the correct model).

I should also mention that the wheels are 5 lug and appear to be the color of mid 60's wheels.

Tim

 

Kenny:

Re: the color, the cab color appears to be red (under a coat of horrible black primer.

One other detail that comes to mind is that small saddle gas tanks have been mounted on the outside of both sides of the frame just below the cab floor. The cab gas tank has been removed.

Tim