How To Find My Engine?
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How To Find My Engine?
I need help identifying my original engine and transmission.
I am in the process of buying back my 1973 F100 Ranger XLT truck that I owned when I dated my wife and sold sixteen years ago. (It's a great story on how I found it).
The man who has it pulled the 390 2v and he says it's somewhere on his property. Unfortunately there are several engines and transmissions laying around and I need to know how to ID mine.
The Serial Number for the truck is F10HLR3XXXX. Is this marked on the engine or transmission? Is there a data plate on the truck that may help me?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Tim
I am in the process of buying back my 1973 F100 Ranger XLT truck that I owned when I dated my wife and sold sixteen years ago. (It's a great story on how I found it).
The man who has it pulled the 390 2v and he says it's somewhere on his property. Unfortunately there are several engines and transmissions laying around and I need to know how to ID mine.
The Serial Number for the truck is F10HLR3XXXX. Is this marked on the engine or transmission? Is there a data plate on the truck that may help me?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Tim
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Well, for one it is hopefully going to be just about the only 390 lying around. But if it isn't, then things just got tougher. Somewhere on the block is the block id number and 390 experts will chime in later to tell you where it is. From that number one can get the date of manufacturer. Find the one that was made in late 1972 or 1973; that one is probably yours. If you find more than one made during that time, take a good look at it and choose the one that looks better. You, nor your truck, will know the difference. Good luck on your easter egg hunt.
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"How To Find My Engine?" Uh, pull the lever in the grill and lift the hood? 
Sorry, couldn't resist....
In addition to what TR said, just in case there's only one FE engine there - you're looking for one with 5 bolts per valve cover. The date code I'd look for would be something like D1TE, D2TE or D3TE on a 73. Check intake manifold or other stock pieces. That should get you in the ballpark.
There isn't any way to tell a 390 from a 360 without measuring the stroke.
Sorry, couldn't resist....
In addition to what TR said, just in case there's only one FE engine there - you're looking for one with 5 bolts per valve cover. The date code I'd look for would be something like D1TE, D2TE or D3TE on a 73. Check intake manifold or other stock pieces. That should get you in the ballpark.
There isn't any way to tell a 390 from a 360 without measuring the stroke.
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I'm soooo glad mtflat said that.
At least I know my sence of humour isn't totally demented now. I can appreciate why you want the engine but would it really be much use after lying in a feild 
. Best of luck though, its nice to hear about "family" getting back together.
At least I know my sence of humour isn't totally demented now. I can appreciate why you want the engine but would it really be much use after lying in a feild . Best of luck though, its nice to hear about "family" getting back together.
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The date code I'd look for would be something like D1TE, D2TE or D3TE on a 73
They specific which vehicle and Year they were designed for.
Maybe time to head to the FE forum after this reply.
wandering around ....First thing you look for is the pattern of the spark plugs.
They look like this on the heads
R
/ / \ \
\ \ / /
L
Next look on the coil bolt for an engine tag.
Once you have established all the FE's
To verify the 390 from the others unless you can crank it by hand to check the stroke you need to check the crankshaft journal for the correct number
Next is the casting numbers. I don't remember there being a special Truck 390 for that year.
In which case the casting number on the block will be a C8OE or C9OE or C8AE - C9AE-6015 -B
If it is a Truck engine it the 3rd digit will be a T as mentioned above by Mflat.
so instead ...You will need to look for actual DATE casting numbers.
Since it was a 73 you will need to look for characters like this.
from > * 2H1 * - * 3J31 *
This will mean it was cast between August 1st 1972 - Aug 31st 1973
This is the wrong forum for Engine ID it will make much more sense in the FE engine forum.
plus some engines like the 390 were orginally designed for Cars but got moved to trucks
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Thanks for the info guys! I really appreciate it. My Dad sent me some pictures last night and it appears that the engine in it has the sparkplugs arranged like you showed and it has 5 bolts per valve cover. So this is an FE engine? Is there a book that would help me understand the casting codes and date codes for an FE engine? If I cant find the original engine I would like to put a 390 from the same time period back in it.
Thanks again,
Tim
Thanks again,
Tim
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I have explained the casting codes in my post above and given you the info you require to ID the engine that goes in that truck
You need to just examine the engines in question and if there is anymore info needed .....just post it to this thread.
You will find it in the "FE forum" sometime after this post.
You need to just examine the engines in question and if there is anymore info needed .....just post it to this thread.
You will find it in the "FE forum" sometime after this post.
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Thanks for your help.
I was wondering if the numbers and letters in C8OE or C9OE or C8AE - C9AE-6015 -B signifies anything specific.
I was asking about a book so that I could take something with me to decipher the codes on the heads, intake, etc. when I make the 8 hour trip to pick it up. I'll have only one chance to get what I want from the engines that are there and I won't have access to a computer.
Tim
I was wondering if the numbers and letters in C8OE or C9OE or C8AE - C9AE-6015 -B signifies anything specific.
I was asking about a book so that I could take something with me to decipher the codes on the heads, intake, etc. when I make the 8 hour trip to pick it up. I'll have only one chance to get what I want from the engines that are there and I won't have access to a computer.
Tim
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My post above has all the info you mention
Read it closer.
from post #5;
The date code I'd look for would be something like D1TE, D2TE or D3TE on a 73
These are actually design codes.
They specify which vehicle and Year they were designed for.
You are dealing with an engine that was first designed in 1962 for cars.
That number would be C2AE-(or C2OE)- 6015-A
C- 60's
2 = 62
A or O large ford car or Galaxie
E- Engineering divison
NOTE: Your truck is 10 years later than that and there were many changes by 1973 and combinations.
Through my reply in my earlier post ...I've cut through all the stuff for your benefit to just walk up and ID your engine.
NOTE:from post #5
Here's an example.
This engine part (E) was designed for a 1972 (D2) Large Ford car (A)
It was cast on Sept (K) 20th (20) , 1971 (1)
and had a few change-ups (A E)
Read it closer.
from post #5;
The date code I'd look for would be something like D1TE, D2TE or D3TE on a 73
These are actually design codes.
They specify which vehicle and Year they were designed for.
You are dealing with an engine that was first designed in 1962 for cars.
That number would be C2AE-(or C2OE)- 6015-A
C- 60's
2 = 62
A or O large ford car or Galaxie
E- Engineering divison
NOTE: Your truck is 10 years later than that and there were many changes by 1973 and combinations.
Through my reply in my earlier post ...I've cut through all the stuff for your benefit to just walk up and ID your engine.
NOTE:from post #5
so instead ...You will need to look for actual DATE casting numbers.
Since it was a 73 you will need to look for characters like this.
from > * 2H1 * - * 3J31 *
This will mean it was cast between August 1st 1972 - Aug 31st 1973
Since it was a 73 you will need to look for characters like this.
from > * 2H1 * - * 3J31 *
This will mean it was cast between August 1st 1972 - Aug 31st 1973
Here's an example.
This engine part (E) was designed for a 1972 (D2) Large Ford car (A)
It was cast on Sept (K) 20th (20) , 1971 (1)
and had a few change-ups (A E)
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Tim another question is back when you owned the truck did it have the original engine? I know after 69 most Fords had a partial vin number on the rear of the block. I'd think by 73 it was standard practice. So if it did have the original engine hopefully it will be easy to find. It would then be a question of what condition it's in. Hopefully it was somewhat covered or sealed (aircleaner at least) and sheltered from the elements. Casting numbers and date codes are easy to read and ID. The 6015 number you posted above does pertain to the block casting number. A C8 block number would be around a 68. Maybe late 67 depending on the date code. But not original to the 73 truck unless it was replaced.
Million.. your blocks date code of "K" is Oct not Sept. Ford skipped the letter "I" (eye) as it could be confused for a "1" (one). J is Sept and K is Oct. Just wanted to clear that up for ya. A-M skipping the letter I....Jan -Dec.
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Million.. your blocks date code of "K" is Oct not Sept. Ford skipped the letter "I" (eye) as it could be confused for a "1" (one). J is Sept and K is Oct. Just wanted to clear that up for ya. A-M skipping the letter I....Jan -Dec.
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I was just going to post a similar question.....
Years ago , more than 20 years ago, I bought a an FE engine to put into my mustang. I was told that it was a 428CJ and being young and stupid, I believed the guy. Well I still have the engine buried in the corner of the garage. I was doin a little cleaning up yesterday and managed to uncover a casting number from the side of the block.
C6ME-A
So its a '66 something? This engine has had some work done to it by a previous owner, solid lifters, cam, hi capacity oil pump,different heads. I'd like to start piecing together what I have so can some one tell me what the ME-A portion of the casting number signify?
thanx,
Frank
Years ago , more than 20 years ago, I bought a an FE engine to put into my mustang. I was told that it was a 428CJ and being young and stupid, I believed the guy. Well I still have the engine buried in the corner of the garage. I was doin a little cleaning up yesterday and managed to uncover a casting number from the side of the block.
C6ME-A
So its a '66 something? This engine has had some work done to it by a previous owner, solid lifters, cam, hi capacity oil pump,different heads. I'd like to start piecing together what I have so can some one tell me what the ME-A portion of the casting number signify?
thanx,
Frank